On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 10:44:04AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Tim O'Callaghan wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 01:51:24AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 10:43:11PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >> > >"Prefab Program Selections" >> > > >> > >? It still has that Unix ugly to it, but it actually says what it means >> > >and >> > >means what it says, so everybody wins. >> > >> > I like "selections" but I don't like "prefab". And, right now, I >> > think that Igor was telling me that you can't do something like: >> > >> > Prefab Program Selections >> > C Development >> > X Desktop >> > ... >> > >> > Because setup.exe can't handle that. > >Actually setup.exe *can* handle that, but it'll be > >Prefab Program Selections > 1.0-1 1.0-1 [] [] 1k C Development > >(with many more spaces -- i.e., the words "C Development" will not be >readily seen). We could, of course, reorder the columns in category view, >but that won't help people using the current version of setup. So I agree >with CGF -- the category name ought to immediately make it clear that >there's interesting stuff beyond the right edge of the chooser...
Right. I was just representing what you mentioned in private email where you bemoaned the fact that the above isn't really feasible. I don't call the above "handling that". 1.0-1? 1k? >> > So, it would have to be: >> > >> > C Development Prefab Program Selection >> > X Desktop Prefab Program Selection >> > ... >> > >> > which is a little wordy. > >Nope. The point is that we want to convey the fact that this *category* >contains groups of packages that allow performing certain tasks. The >names of the packages themselves aren't as important. "Nope" meaning what? "FOO Prefab Program Selection" *is* wordy. >> > I do think we want to convey that these are optional easy-to-use >> > selections which will pull in all of the programs required for a >> > standard "use case" (as they like to say where I work). >> > >> > How about "standard selection"? >> > >> > C Development Standard Selection >> > X Desktop Standard Selection >> > ... >> > >> > Bleah. I don't know. Maybe it just can't be properly conveyed >> > without all sorts of flashy gui balloons and help. >> >> How about 'Bundle' ? > >I like "Bundle", but it still doesn't convey that one only needs to >install one such bundle for each task that they want to do. How about >"Task-oriented Bundles"[*] or something? The "Task-oriented" part clearly >shows that these are bundled with a specific task in mind. > Igor >[*] Of course, it'd be ".TASK-ORIENTED_BUNDLES"... I really don't like the need for underscores or dashes and I *really* don't like the upper case stuff. When I see all upper case on a screen I think there's something not set up right somewhere. cgf
