On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 07:43  PM, Faustine wrote:

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> Tim wrote:
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>> Physics-wise, it's a jiveass fantasy. No way are there "micro-strips"
>> readable from a distance in today's currency, and very likely not in 
>> the
>> next 20 years.
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> I'm not so sure it'll take that long, given the amount of effort people 
> are
> putting into it. Here are some relevant articles from that single 
> five-month
> old issue of Global ID Magazine I referenced...

Everytime I comment on your citations, you go into a snit about how 
"Gramps" is insulting the "whippersnappers."

For all I know, in Real Life you're older than me, or you're some guy 
working a guard job at Lockheed. Or both. Or you may be the grad student 
at Hoboken State College you appear to be. Whatever, I know that your 
main method of argument is either a bunch of "Bah" comments followed 
with cites apropos of nothing you've dug up. Such as your refutation of 
category theory by digging up some of the usual computer vision and 
scene analysis junk that's been going around for 40 year.

I stand by my comment that shielding a thread in a $100 bill, for 
example, is vastly easier than detecting it. Your cites about WiFi 
frequencies and 3 meter ranges and suchlike don't mean much.

  (As it happens, and you'll go into your "whippersnapper" rant for my 
mentioning names, but I'm an early investor in one of the leading 
ultrawideband (UWB) companies, one competing with the better-known Time 
Domain. Their antennas are launching high-current pulses in WiFi and 
even higher frequencies...the tagline is always "DC-to-daylight," of 
course, but 99% or so of the radiated power is in the .5-10 GHz band. I 
was up at their lab last Friday, checking on progress, walking around 
inside the cargo shipping container they've got set up at their place, 
and looking down on Skywalker Ranch below them. UWB may  turn out to be 
useful, but it has nothing to do with detecting threads embedded in Ben 
Franklins.)

> A long range ID system
> http://web.tiscali.it/homeglobal/issues/0111/Nov01-07.pdf
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> Utilising the internationally approved 2.45Ghz UHF band allows 
> specialised
> readers to access the information contained in transponders at a 
> distance of up
> to three metres. Familiar sources of disturbance such as reflection, 
> noise
> interference and overreach have been eliminated by integrating UMTS/GSM
> technologies

--Tim May
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only 
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from 
the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for 
the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with 
the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy 
always followed by dictatorship." --Alexander Fraser Tyler

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