On Thursday 14 November 2002 11:29 pm, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> How wonderful for you. Many of us sincerely wish we could practice
> our religion freely as well.
And just who is stopping you? And what religion is it?
> > I can criticize my government and stay out of
> > prison.
> Can you? As long as you do it at home or in your local bar, I
> suppose. Try taking it out on the street and getting in their face.
Hmmmm. What do you mean by "getting in their face?"
> > I don't have soldiers living with/watching me.
> Plenty of pigs watching a lot of us. The fedzis are everywhere
> these days. Perhaps you've heard about them infiltrating church
> groups, demanding the reading lists from libraries, etc. How do you
> know they haven't bugged your house? Your computer? Got Carnivore at
> your ISP?
Well, between gpg, cryptofs, and IPSec, I doubt that they have my computer
bugged, and I don't worry about Carnivore. I can and do encrypt anything I
don't wish to share.
> > Saddam is just as
> > bad as most dictators, but let's not confuse the issue; he's still a
> > DICTATOR!
> What do you call an unelected president?
I wouldn't know. I've never seen one. Oh wait! Your not refering to Dubbya,
are ya? I can't help it if our election system is flawed, but most are.
> Fuck that. The Nazis posted a law saying all Jews were illegal.
> People didn't agree with it, "but it was the law" -- right?
Outlawing pot and Genocide are two different things.
> > wouldn't have agreed with Prohibition, but I would have followed the
> > law while at the same time trying to abolish it.
> Yup, just following orders, right?
What a major distortion of what I said. It wouldn't hurt most people to
sober up and come down from whatever they took last night and start living in
the real world.
> > Guess what, I have that
> > freedom, still. Personall, I don't care what you do in the privacy
> > of your own home, but I won't want to drive on the same street, go
> > to work with, or have my child watched, by anyone who is high on
> > some drug.
> You don't use any drugs yourself, of course. Never touch any
> alcohol or tobacco, eh?
Like I said, what I do in my own house is MY business.
> > If that means
> > smoking dope keeps someone from being imployed, that's not my
> > problem.
> Yes, I keep hearing this same theme from a lot of fat-cat
> amerikans -- "I don't care what the gov't does, they aren't bothering
> me." "I don't care if they read my email." "I don't have anything to
> hide, who cares if they tap all the phones?"
Name-calling? How sad. I guess you are trying to attribute these statements
to me? I've never said any of this. I'm not a fat-cat, and I don't agree
with any of these statements. Kinda blows your arguement.
> > Well, mass-murder is a bit strong. I believe we are motivated by
> > oil; not arguement there.
> So it's okay to take what belongs to someone else if your strong
> enough to do it, eh? Hmmm, where do you live? Got any nice toys? How
> much cash do you usually carry?
Yer assuming that you are stong enough to take it..... I never said it was
ok; I said the term mass-murder was a bit strong. I even said that I didn't
argue the point.
> > Perhapse Dubbya is looking out for the US's, and his own?
> > best interests. I'll bet you drive a car and like a warm home, and
> > like that electricity stuff.
> Yup, but I'm making my own biodiesel to run my van and pickup on,
> and soon will have a gasifier to produce all the heat and electricity
> I need from biomass, mostly waste. But we lived for 18 years with *no*
> electricity and only wood for all our heating and cooking, it's no
> biggy. I don't need or want a drop of Iraqi oil.
And do you think that your solution scales well? How long would it take to
fix someone like me up? Probably a long time, but I don't know.
> > Well, it all NEEDS OIL! The average American Sheep would
> > riot in the street if they couldn't drive their SUV to church on
> > sunday.
> You sound pretty much like one of those sheeple. I'll laugh my ass
> off when the oil well goes dry. I sincerly hope a lot of those fat ass
> amerikans who support the likes of Dubbya starve and freeze to death.
No, I just don't agree with you. That doesn't make me a sheep. So, you will
laugh at "amerikans" starving and freezing, but you think it's wrong for
"amerika" to do what it's doing....? Typical.
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