Jim Choate wrote:
> > two different explanations. how can we find out which one is closer to
> > the truth?
> 
> What truth? 

in our time, if it exists, it's probably patented.


> What makes you think there couldn't be even more factors like
> religous, economic, or raw resource issues as well.
> 
> Quit looking for easy answers.

I wasn't. just pointing out that neither of them will be "The" answer.



> > and again there's the question of whether an ideal should be followed if
> > it is proven to be so volatile.
> 
> Not sure what you mean by volatile in this context. All ideas are
> volatile.

I mean "turn into a tyranny at first opportunity" in this context. I
would expect the "ideal state" to be a little more resistent to the
stalins and hitlers of our world.

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