On 02/01/2017 12:19 AM, James A. Donald wrote: > On 2/1/2017 5:03 AM, juan wrote: >> So it clearly follows that the correct libertarian position on >> travel is *open* *government* borders. And so any sort of >> support for government restrictions on travel across government >> borders is not libertarian. > > And if Islamic State drives five hundred technicals, one hundred armored > personnel carriers, and one hundred tanks across the border? > > In general, what do libertarians do when the other guys organize > collective violence on the basis of race, religion, or ideology? > > It is not just actual states, like Islamic state. Any cohesive religion > or ethnicity can and frequently does do stuff that is somewhat like what > a state can do. As for example recent drastic reversals of > gentrification by black people collectively engaged in activities that > are rather close to ethnic cleansing of whites. > > Conversely, any functional state is held together by a ruling tribe, > ethnicity, religion, or ideology, and if the ruling tribe loses > cohesion, or people lose faith in the ruling ideology or religion, the > state is apt to fall apart. > > Orthodox Jews have enclaves in places where most nonblacks would find it > difficult because they can engage in collective defense against blacks > without being deemed nazis and fascists. > > Cohesive groups can predate on incohesive categories and frequently do. > If you find a cohesive group is predating on you, what are you going to do? > > > http://crustpunks.com/images/followyourleader2.png
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