So, 25 to 31 years of generally cooling temperatures muh grits: Martin Armstrong On The Coming Mini Ice-Age https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-31/martin-armstrong-coming-mini-ice-age
… “HIGH PROBABILITY that [global temperatures] are declining for 31 years from 2015” Time to stock up on thermals and carbon fuels... On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 09:13:25PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:37:02AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 09:18:19PM +0000, jim bell wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018, 12:46:40 PM PST, Kurt Buff > > > <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:33 AM jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> (Full disclosure: I have a Bachelor's degree in Chemistry from MIT, > > > >> Class of 1980). > > > >> > > > >> While I am not sufficently convinced that, quantitatively, "global > > > >> warming" ("climate change"), or more specifically AGW (Anthropogenic > > > >> Global Warning) is a genuine problem, I'd say it would be > > > >> irresponsible to not prepare for the possibility that this > > > >> sulfur-injection protocol will be necessary, or at least useful. It > > > >> should be quite cheap. Further, there are likely to be various > > > >> (positive) feedback-loops associated with global warming, such as the > > > >> thawing of permafrost, whose magnitude aren't well-understood. > > > >> > > > >> I suspect that the main opposition to this idea comes from people who > > > >> see "climate change" as simply an opportunity to increase government > > > >> control over the world. They think that they've found themselves one > > > >> hell of a problem, but a problem which would be threatened, like > > > >> garlic or a silver bullet, or a gold cross, to a vampire. > > > > > > > > > >So, the solution to warming is smog? Really? Perhaps if injected at a > > > high enough altitude it won't affect lungs, but it seems like SO2 > > > isn't something we want to pump into the atmosphere... > > > Kurt > > > > > > Ironically, that solution will likely be correct. But to understand why, > > > it helps to know that circulation between the lower-levels of the > > > atmosphere (say, under 10,000 AGL (above ground level)) and the upper > > > levels, say around 60,000 feet AGL is quite slow. SO2 injected at low > > > levels of the atmosphere will wash out in weeks or months due to rain. > > > SO2 injected at, say, 60,000 feet AGL will probably last for years. > > > That SO2 will eventually diffuse downward and be lost due to rain as > > > well, but far less SO2 will need to be added at 60,000 feet than is > > > currently being added from ground-level sources. > > > China's coal-fired power plants currently emit huge amounts of > > > ground-level SO2, which could be scrubbed just like America's plants. > > > http://www.pnas.org/content/115/27/7004 And, presumably, should be > > > scrubbed. But only a far smaller amount of SO2, than could be scrubbed > > > from China's coal-fired power plants would need to be released at 60,000 > > > feet AGL, each on a per-year basis, to accomplish the cooling effect > > > required. I looked it up, maybe a year ago, and I think the comparison > > > was 32 million tons/year v. 1 million tons/year. I hope I'm remembering > > > it correctly. > > > > > > Jim Bell > > > > We actually want the earth to be a warm, wet greenhouse. In fact, > > life demands as much... > > > The Little Ice Age with Solar Minimum, and the only problem this > Earth really has to worry about, right on cue: > > > Martin Armstrong: Global Cooling, Not Warming, Is What We Should > Fear Most > https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-29/martin-armstrong-global-cooling-not-warming-what-we-should-fear-most > https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/global-cooling-not-global-warming-that-we-should-fear-the-most/ > … This is what I keep pointing out that cold is what kills society > and creates poverty – not warming. > The Year Without Summer: 1816 > … Beneath the snow, after weeks of severe cold, the ground was > frozen solid to a depth of two feet. Packed ice in the road made > the journey very hazardous. > … John Adams: “… Posterity! You will never know, how much it cost > the present Generation, to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will > make a good Use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, > that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.”