I was thinking of disabling all the ringers in my phones and setting up an
old Mac with a cid enabled modem to announce all calls.  The unavailable
ones it would keep silent for. :)  Getting wires all over the house and a
PA amp is the part I haven't done yet.

Could work well as an alarm clock too.. :)


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On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote:

>    Yeah, but that stuff doesn't stop the calls. We use caller ID and don't pick
> up for anything that says "unknown caller" which stops most, but just the
> ringing pisses me off. I'm going to try the tones. I've also read of a little
> box you can buy which does the same thing, but so you don't even hear the phone
> ring at all.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:08:22PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> > I'll have to try this (and it should work seeing how I'm Tyler Durden!).
> > 
> > But I have utilized a stopgap strategy for a number of years now that has 
> > worked pretty good:
> > 
> > 1) If I hear silence for more than a moment or two I hang up the phone.
> > 2) If I hear a large number of people talking in the background when I pick 
> > up, I hang up the phone.
> > 3) If someone replies to my "hello" with another "hello" I hang up the 
> > phone (think about it--no one who knows you and has called you will simply 
> > reply 'hello' after you've picked up the phone).
> > 
> > It also helps to speak a language you don't think the telemarketer 
> > understands...they'll hang up the phone pretty quickly if you're talking in 
> > Chinese, for instance. (And if they have a Chinese accent I'll talk to them 
> > in Spanish.)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: How to Stop Telemarketers...
> > >Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:07:04 -0800
> > >
> > >Most Telemarketers use what is called Predictive Dialers, which are PCs
> > >with software that dials ever number in a phone exchange until it gets
> > >lucky. Now you can use their own technology against them, and it's legal...
> > >
> > >Here is how their system works: the dialer calls your number, you answer,
> > >and you have probably notice the line appears dead after you said, "Hello".
> > >What their computer is doing is listening for a short burst of audio, your
> > >"HELLO", followed by a period of silence. With this heard, it will log your
> > >phone number as valid and transfer the call to an available telemarketer,
> > >the reason for the delay before someone comes on line.
> > >
> > >Now, if their computer receives a long audio burst (an answering machine) "
> > >Hello, this is Alan Carlton", then it will disconnect, but it will log you
> > >phone number as valid, for a later call-back. Oh Lovely! Some are even
> > >capable of detecting Fax tones and will even transmit a fax trying to sell
> > >selling something you're probably are not interested in. However, do not
> > >answer, or when you do answer the phone, or if fax tones are detected, or
> > >if it detects an answering machine, in all four (4) cases IT LOGS YOUR
> > >NUMBER AS A GOOD PHONE NUMBER FOR FUTURE CALL- BACK --- PLUS THE COMPANY IS
> > >ALSO SELLING THESE VERIFIED VALID NUMBERS LIST TO OTHER TELEMARKETERS.
> > >
> > >A SIMPLE WAY TO STAY OFF THE LIST IS TO USE THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY AGAINST 
> > >THEM.
> > >
> > >The predictive dialer's software also looks for NON-valid phone numbers,
> > >and there is a simple way you can make your phone number appear invalid to
> > >the telemarketers' computers, thus they do not call back and accumulate no
> > >database, at least with your number, to sell other Telemarketers.
> > >
> > >Here is how to do it: If you call a number that has been disconnected or is
> > >no longer in service you will hear 3 short tones, "doo...dah...dee", thanks
> > >to Ma-Bell. Each time you Refresh this page you should hear,
> > >"doo...dah...dee". The actual frequency of these tones are 985.2 Hz, 1370.6
> > >Hz, and 1776.7 Hz. Guess what the telemarketers' software does when it
> > >detects these 3 tones at the beginning of your outgoing message? It thinks
> > >it has reached a line that is disconnected or is no longer in service. So,
> > >it disconnects and does not log your phone number as a working number. 
> > >BINGO!
> > >
> > >NOW record these onto you outgoing message or voice mail announcement, and
> > >start exterminating telemarketers. Try this example, but use your own name,
> > >"doo...dah...dee, Hello, This is Tyler Durden". It must be at the beginning
> > >of your announcement to work. You may have to explain it to you friends,
> > >but they will soon have it on theirs' too.
> > >
> > >CLICK ON THE FOLLOWING LINK TO PLAY THE 3 TONES.
> > >
> > >http://www.flash.net/~carlton2/telemark.htm
> > >
> > >steve
> > 
> > 
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> -- 
> Harmon Seaver 
> CyberShamanix
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