John Young wrote:
>
> Jefferson, Franklin, a fools' parade of alleged proponents
> of freedom, all richly enjoyed the good life while extolling
> the virtues of liberty and independence from entrenched power.

A fools' (sic) parade of alleged proponents of freedom? I would 
be very interested in seeing Mr. Young's list of genuine 
proponents of freedom, circa 1776. And I'd like to see the 
mechanisms that Mr. Young feels "entrenched" the power of those 
people he considers freedom's frauds. Acting publicly to provide 
material, verbal, and financial support for an armed revolution 
to violently overthrow the existing government while it was the 
largest military and financial power in the history of the 
world, and in the face of its holding rougly 75% Tory support in 
the colonies, its stationing of a substantial army of 
"Continentals" and a large body of British soldiers and 
administrators, along with its military forces regulating 
commerce all major ports of trade, would not be the obvious path 
to either enjoying the good life or holding on to entrenched 
power.

Quit sniffing the duct tape, John.

As for the reasons Bush would like to start a war with Iraq, the 
leaders are:

1. To finish up for Bush 41
2. To grab the world's second largest proven oil reserves
3. To sandwich Iran between a US administered Iraq and a US 
administered Afghanistan and with Turkey, sealing off Saudi 
Arabia from Islamic revolutionary zeal seeking to overthrow the 
tyranny there
4. To distract from a declining US economy and gain reelection
5. To motivate random mini-cells of Islamic fundamentalists to 
make mini-attacks on US interests, so as to gain acquiescence to 
institutionalizing fascism in the US "for security reasons".

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