Hello Mr. Pächt, according to my information (25 years of research on persecuted music professionals with an Austrian background) your grandfather studied violin at the Czernowitz Conservatory, and later on in Vienna piano (?) and / or theory with Alfred Rosé at the Wiener Volkskonservatorium, and violin with Julius Winkler, either at the Vienna Music Academy, where Winkler taught 1924-1925 or as a private student of Winkler (Winkler was a well known violin teacher with his own violin school). ³rout² seems to me to be an abbreviation of the German word routiniert¹, which means he was an experienced violin player. I do not know in which orchestras he played, but he certainly must have been a good violinist with these teachers.
As you might know, he is mentioned here: Barbara Sauer, Ilse Reiter-Zatloukal: Advokaten, Wien: Manz 2010, S. 262 I also have a question for you : Can you tell me what happened to his wife Marya /Maria, née Rosenzweig? Did she follow him to Italy? I will always be grateful for any additional information. Best wishes Primavera Driessen Gruber Dr. Primavera Driessen Gruber Sigmundsgasse 11/4 A-1070 Wien Tel. NEU: 0043-699-18442160 primavera.gru...@chello.at www.orpheusnews.at www.orpheustrust.at Von: <bounce-127894041-95626...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Jeremy Pacht <jeremy.pa...@gmail.com> Antworten an: Jeremy Pacht <jeremy.pa...@gmail.com> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. November 2023 um 09:48 An: <czernowit...@cornell.edu> Betreff: <SPAM> [czernowitz-l] Schule Rosé Hello, My grandfather Carl (or Karl) Josef PÄCHT was a lawyer by profession but also an accomplished violinist. There were rumours within my parents¹ generation that he played, perhaps recreationally, with chamber groups drawn from members of a leading Vienna orchestra, or that he played for one of the main Vienna orchestras, perhaps as a substitute. He states on his Vienna emigration questionnaire that he studied music at ³Konservatorium in Wien u. Czernowitz, Schule Rosé². I can¹t find any reference to Schule Rosé on the internet: Does anyone here know anything about the school, or about a Prof. Winkler under whom CJP may have studied ? Also this is a translation question that ought perhaps to be asked elsewhere, but I¹ll try my luck he states that he had received further training ³als rout. Orchester.²: can anyone tell me what ³rout.² stands for / means ? This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to <czernowit...@cornell.edu>. To remove your address from this e-list follow these directions <https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris> . To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu ******************************************************************************* This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to <czernowit...@cornell.edu>. To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
