I could agree that the damage cyberwar does is mostly to ideology, but then what is the difference between cyberwar and propaganda or even marketing? Isn't it just the fact that you have retrieved some difficult to obtain evidence? Does that make the propaganda/marketing more believable and so effective?
- Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 To: [email protected] Subject: Dailydave Digest, Vol 56, Issue 10 Send Dailydave mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Dailydave digest..." Today's Topics: 1. SAINTCON Security Conference (Troy Jessup) 2. Re: "Nitro Zeus" whatever whatever. (Ejovi Nuwere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 22:53:52 +0000 From: Troy Jessup <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [Dailydave] SAINTCON Security Conference Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SAINTCON 2016 SAINTCON is the Intermountain-West premiere Cybersecurity conference held in Provo, Utah. This conference is dedicated to all things security and focuses on security discussions and trainings. If you live or work in the west, this is your security con! https://www.saintcon.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 204 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <https://lists.immunityinc.com/pipermail/dailydave/attachments/20160728/515c5aa1/attachment-0001.sig> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 09:53:53 -0400 From: Ejovi Nuwere <[email protected]> To: dave aitel <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dailydave] "Nitro Zeus" whatever whatever. Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This article in the New Yorker seems to align well with your explanation of cyberwar as a systemic disruption of ideology. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-real-paranoia-inducing-purpose-of-russian-hacks Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2016, at 6:36 PM, dave aitel <[email protected]> wrote: > > <nitrozeus.PNG> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiV6am2lNTQ. You'll notice in this Usenix > talk from 2012 I inadvertently blow Nitro Zeus, which came out in that > ZeroDays movie recently. I honestly don't write my talks all by myself, but > you'll notice "we" call out Wikileaks as being a cyber weapon as opposed to > everyone else's seeming fascination with HackingTeam or whatever the > boogieman of the day is. > > People and bonobo monkeys are fascinated by sex - and it's easy to get > wrapped around the sex aspects of Wikileaks, but it's hard to ignore that > what he wrote in his manifesto was a very advanced conceptual understanding > about cyber war, which he then continues to execute to this day. Did or did > not the head of the DNC have to resign this week, in part due to his actions, > even if all he provided was cover and a defined modus operandi? Anyways, > unlike a lot of people, I actually read his manifesto and one thing I learned > was that cyberwar attacks ideology best. This is a key feature of how the > whole domain works. > <ideology.PNG> > The DNC is an ideology. It's something you can believe in, or not. But so is > ISIS? So is Immunity? > -dave > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dailydave mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.immunityinc.com/pipermail/dailydave/attachments/20160729/31d3704d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list [email protected] https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave End of Dailydave Digest, Vol 56, Issue 10 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list [email protected] https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
