On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Ammon Riley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Ivan Tarozzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Il 08/11/2012 05:57, [email protected] ha scritto:
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM, johannes hanika<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM,<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> Finally, we have got the 1.1rc1 dmg image.  Thanks heaps!  However at
>>>>> the moment, OS X complains that it is not digitally signed for the
>>>>> gatekeeper mechanism.  We all know what darktable is, and it is safe,
>>>>> but for many photographers who are less computer-savvy than us, would
>>>>> this warning scare them from using darktable on OS X?
> [...]
>> Is not a problem (i think) about 99$, is a problem about development
>> freedom. If I need to pay to develope "for you", and you can accept or
>> reject my work in your app-store (rumors, not personal experience) is
>> not a way i like.
>
> I agree on the philosophy, but a minor nit-pick regarding the app-store
> bit...
>
> Digitally signing the .dmg is a separate issue from selling on Apple's
> app store.  Recent versions of OS X have "the Gatekeeper", which
> is a security setting that controls what applications can be run and
> installed. Signing the DT images, regardless of whether or not it's
> distributed through the App Store raises the trust level up a notch.
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
>
> In theory, it's a good idea.  Looking over at the apple docs for
> signing, it appears that this can be done without paying for an
> Apple dev ID:
>
> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Security/Conceptual/CodeSigningGuide/Procedures/Procedures.html
>
> In particular, the section that reads:
>
>     Note: Apple uses the industry-standard form and format of
>     code signing certificates. Therefore, if your company already
>     has a third-party signing identity that you use to sign code
>     on other systems, you can use it with the OS X codesign
>     command. Similarly, if your company is a certificate issuing
>     authority, contact your IT department to find out how to get
>     a signing certificate issued by your company.
>
> On the topic of putting the dmg on the mac app store, I'd be for it.
> I'd also be in support of charging money for it, if the funds generated
> from sales are directed to general DT development.  I can't speak to
> the legal issues about either putting an open-source app on the app
> store, or charging money for it.
>
> Cheers,
> Ammon
>

I have just tried the darktable.app version 1.1-rc2 on my OS X 10.8
with the default settings.  However it says:

“darktable.app” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.

Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac
App Store and identified developers.

Here, what is the definition of "identified developers"?  Does it mean
anyone with a GPG key, or does it only cover individuals who have an
Apple Developers account?

In the latter case, if we do *not* have an apple developer, and no-one
wants to pay USD 99 to Apple to get a membership, then we should at
least show instructions of how to get around the gatekeeper on OS X
10.8.  Otherwise we will scare away potential OS X users who are not
as saavy as us :)

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