* tony Hamilton <shaky.st...@ntlworld.com> [12-01-20 11:47]:
> "we cannot see the lines which you refer, please type them here and we will
> try to explain."
>
> I guess that 'lines' means the error messages that were displayed in the
> command prompt window?. I did type them in my post, but I'll repeat them
> here:
>
> First error message:
>
> (darktable:5370): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:31:21.049: Attempting to add a widget
> with type GtkBox to a container of type GtkStack, but the widget is already
> inside a container of type GtkStack, please remove the widget from its
> existing container first.
>
> Subsequent error messages (32 the same as this, 1 per imported image):
>
> sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
>
> On 01/12/2020 01:22, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * tony Hamilton <shaky.st...@ntlworld.com> [11-30-20 20:14]:
> > > Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification. In another test I have invoked
> > > darktable from the command line using the application name only with no
> > > options or parameters. I then asked dt to import a newly created folder of
> > > images which I have just copied from a network drive. Import completed
> > > without freezing but on examining the command line window I see a number
> > > of
> > > messages/warnings. The first is:
> > >
> > > "(darktable:5370): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:31:21.049: Attempting to add a
> > > widget
> > > with type GtkBox to a container of type GtkStack, but the widget is
> > > already
> > > inside a container of type GtkStack, please remove the widget from its
> > > existing container first."
> > >
> > > I have no idea what all this means. This message is then followed by
> > > multiple instances of "sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" - one message
> > > for each image that was imported. Again, I have no idea of what tis
> > > message
> > > means.
> > we cannot see the lines which you refer, please type them here and we will
> > try to explain.
> > > Now, about hardware: I use this same model of nVidia card on an old
> > > computer
> > > with an early i5 processor, running Win 10. OpenCL is active and darktable
> > > edits work there just fine - obviously not quick, but not unusable.
> > > Freezing
> > > during import does not occur in this windows installation.
> > >
> > > This linux machine I am running darktable on is an 11 year old computer,
> > > originally with an i5 dual core CPU, which I have updated to a 2009
> > > vintage
> > > Lynnfield i7 860 (the most I can install on this motherboard). Until
> > > recently it was a dual boot machine, with Win 10. Under Windows it ran
> > > high-CPU-demand apps like RawTherapee, Capture One, Photoshop, LightRoom
> > > surprisingly quickly. Running typical home/office apps under Mint 20 is as
> > > fast as anything I have used before and is comparable to my newest windows
> > > machine, with a 9th generation i7, multiple SSDs and 32 GB RAM.
> > >
> > > In short, I don't think I have a serious performance issue.
> > >
> > > I do run with Psensors active all the time (to be sure I am not going to
> > > melt that old i7); none of the cores get anywhere near T.Junc. limit. I
> > > also
> > > have plenty of RAM for linux (16 GB). Running top does not show any
> > > significant problems: total memory demand is running at about 8 to 11 GB;
> > > swap is never used. CPU is running surprisingly low.
> > >
> > > While writing this message I have tried starting the GUI version of
> > > darktable and then importing newly copied folders. During the past 24
> > > hours
> > > I have made the lucky guess (a miracle really) at why OpenCL was not
> > > available ( file /etc/OpenCL/vendors/nvidia.icd defined an nvidia driver
> > > which I was not using - now corrected). One of those import attempts ran
> > > without issue; the other failed with freezing as before. htop did not show
> > > any striking anomalies.
> > >
> > > In short, I still do not understand why darktable GUI is freezing.
> > >
> > perhaps you should provide us the address of the directory you are trying
> > to import, the full path name.
> >
> > and provide a sample image for use to try to import.
> > and do not include it in your email, but place it on a file sharing
> > service or a web server where you have access.
> > > On 30/11/2020 06:08, KOVÁCS István wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 17:35, tony Hamilton <shaky.st...@ntlworld.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line'
> > > > I merely meant starting a shell, and using the 'darktable' command
> > > > there to launch the application, hoping that you'd get some error
> > > > message printed there when darktable freezes. I also get freezes every
> > > > now and then (usually after export, though), but I'm running the
> > > > development version of the code, so that can be unstable; plus, my PC
> > > > is ancient.
> > > >
> > > > > A comprehensive search on the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss
> > > > > OpenCL on Linux Mint 20
> > > > > I am using Linux Mint 20 driving an
> > > > > nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using driver nvidia-driver-455 version
> > > > > 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1.
> > > > [...]
> > > > > I now have and have discovered that OpenCL is not available in my
> > > > > system.
> > > > That card is probably too old. The good news is, if OpenCL is
> > > > disabled, it cannot cause issues (the bad news is, you miss out on
> > > > performance; with a second-hand NVidia 1060, my 12-year-old machine is
> > > > still usable with darktable).
> > > >
> > > > You say the hang-after-import is a new development. Are you aware of
> > > > anything that changed? (Software upgrades, hardware changes, are you
> > > > new importing a lot more photos in at once than previously? Have you
> > > > cleaned your PC's inside recently? Dust can cause overheating.)
> > > >
> > > > Once darktable hangs, if you open another terminal and launch 'top' or
> > > > 'htop' (you may have to install them first), do you see high CPU usage
> > > > by darktable or is it idle? Do you see any signs indicating running
> > > > out of memory? (There probably is a similar tool with a more
> > > > user-friendly interface to monitor resources, but I'm not familiar
> > > > with it.)
> > > >
> > > > Kofa
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