Hi. I think there may be some cultural background that you're not aware of, which is this. Linux (and Unix before that) was developed on the philosophy of "one task one program" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy ), according to which programs were designed to do one thing and to do it well: coordination between tasks was handled by interaction between programs. This is the way that your operating system works (it's not just Linux: any modern operating system works that way), and the benefits of it are that it avoids reinventing the wheel, that it improves performance (because single-task programs tend to be smaller and faster than big bloated ones, and so on).
Now with photo editing, there are two tasks. One of them is maintaining a catalogue of images: I use Shotwell for that. Shotwell's quite old, but it's reliable and fast. When I want to edit a photo, I get Shotwell to open it in Darktable. Darktable only does one thing, which is to edit images: it's not an image catalogue. And (being an old and wizened Linux user) I think things should remain that way. Graham On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:40 PM Lorenzo Fontanella < fontanellalore...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good evening Pascal > I speak about my needs of course, but I know many photographers who think > the same and are in the same situation. > I have a RAW + JPEG archive of about 500 000 files (video excluded), > consisting of files from various Nikon, Fujifilm Sigma (*) cameras. > > In my current state, it is impossible to import the whole archive, I tried > several times but even excluding the various errors in the import phase, I > ended up with an incredibly slow software that did not allow me to navigate > easily in the imported database and even to develop quickly, it had slowed > down a lot. > Now I use it by making partial imports of only the folders that interest > me, but even then, it is not easy. > > Other software like RawTherapee or Capture one that integrates a mix > between catalog and sessions (browser), allow me to be much more "agile" in > the process of selection, search and pre-assessment of the image, because > I'm not forced every time to import the entire folder to view and perform a > pre-development on the file to decide which to use. > > Legitimate question........ > Why don't you use this software since you speak so highly of it? > > Because even though DarkTable is conceived from a programming point of > view and not from a photographic point of view (I'm talking about the > ordering of the modules), even though it only works with a catalog and > forces me to import what I want to work on, even though the learning curve > is not linear........ IT'S BADLY POWERFUL, and it does a flawless job where > other emblazoned software fails miserably. > > (*) You claim that it is designed to develop RAW files, I assure you that > I have used it to work on Foveon files developed on Sigma Photo Pro and > exported to jpeg or even on files saved (by mistake) in jpeg from Sigma > cameras and I assure you that it has done a wonderful job. > > In short, it works and hell it works fantastically. > I understand that there is never enough time to spend on development and > you have to streamline. > But I urge you not to dismiss the option just because you don't see it as > useful, I assure you it would make a difference in terms of adoption of the > software by a great many users who now find it inconvenient due to the > import factor. > > I would also be willing to the slower generation of the previews, remember > that I use Sigma Photo Pro, the slowness has never been a problem, if it > serves to obtain a superlative result. > > Greetings > > Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) > > Lorenzo Fontanella > http://www.lorenzofontanella.it/ > > > Il giorno mer 6 ott 2021 alle ore 19:38 Pascal Obry <pas...@obry.net> ha > scritto: > >> >> Hi Lorenzo, >> >> > I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the >> > software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and >> > open the images you want to edit. >> >> The misunderstanding is probably there. darktable is not an image >> browser, it is not even designed to handle images but RAWs which are >> not images. So I don't see this as a good idea as generating previews >> for the RAWs will be slow, very slow. >> >> This is so by design, if you are looking for an image browser then for >> sure you don't want to look at darktable. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) >> >> The best way to travel is by means of imagination >> >> http://www.obry.net >> >> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- Graham White London ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
