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> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:00:25 +0100
> From: Hieke van Hoogdalem <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com>
> To: Patrick Shanahan <p...@opensuse.org>, darktable forum
>  <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
> Subject: Re: ****SPAM(2.9)**** Re: [darktable-user] Mask won't apply
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>  
> Hartelijke groet,
> Hieke van Hoogdalem
>  
> 
> Op 08-02-2022 17:35 heeft Patrick Shanahan <p...@opensuse.org> geschreven:
> 
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>     > Content preview:  I managed to have the gradient mask do what I want 
> – I had
>     >    to invert it. I finally managed to get what I needed. Hartelijke 
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>     > Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 17:24:42 +0100
>     > From: Hieke van Hoogdalem <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com>
>     > To: Terry Pinfold <terry.pinf...@utas.edu.au>, Remco Viëtor
>     >  <remco.vie...@wanadoo.fr>
>     > CC: darktable forum <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Mask won't apply
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>     > I managed to have the gradient mask do what I want – I had to invert 
> it. I finally managed to get what I needed.
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Hartelijke groet,
>     > 
>     > Hieke van Hoogdalem
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Van: Hieke van Hoogdalem <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com>
>     > Datum: dinsdag 8 februari 2022 om 13:08
>     > Aan: Terry Pinfold <terry.pinf...@utas.edu.au>, Remco Viëtor 
> <remco.vie...@wanadoo.fr>
>     > CC: darktable forum <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>     > Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Mask won't apply
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Tnx. I also did that (new instance, adjust exposure slider) but like I 
> said: it effected the whole image.
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > 'First master the basics'… well… if the lines are too harsh, getting 
> rid of those is part of the basics as far as I'm concerned. Otherwise it 
> doesn't look like the masks aren't being mastered at all.
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > So yes, I get those basics, but like I said before: I don't get this to 
> be applied to my mask. That's why I asked about the blend mode before. I 
> tried the feather and blur and so on, but it doesn't work, because it starts 
> wrong with everything being applied to the complete image.
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Hartelijke groet,
>     > 
>     > Hieke van Hoogdalem
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Van: Terry Pinfold <terry.pinf...@utas.edu.au>
>     > Datum: dinsdag 8 februari 2022 om 06:51
>     > Aan: Hieke van Hoogdalem <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com>, Remco Viëtor 
> <remco.vie...@wanadoo.fr>
>     > CC: darktable forum <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>     > Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Mask won't apply
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Hi Hieke,
>     > 
>     >        with respect I say that you seem confused about working with 
> masks. I hope the following explanation may help you.
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     >  I often want to brighten or darken a section of an image, similar to 
> how I would have dodged or burned in a traditional film darkroom. To achieve 
> this with a digital image I make a new instance of exposure and adjust the 
> exposure slider (sometimes I deliberately overdo the adjustment and will 
> return to it later). This adjustment moves the whole of the image's exposure, 
> but then I use the drawn mask option which looks like a crayon. I then often 
> use the add path option to very roughly select the area I want to apply the 
> effect to. The transition will be harsh and obvious. To fix this problem I 
> then move the feather radius and blurring radius sliders about a third of the 
> way to the right (amount may vary between images). This feathering and 
> blurring then creates an invisible transition. I return to the exposure 
> slider and fine turn the strength of the effect.  
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Forget the blend mode options until you have mastered basic masking 
> techniques. 
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > From: Hieke van Hoogdalem <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com>
>     > Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2022 7:40 AM
>     > To: Remco Viëtor <remco.vie...@wanadoo.fr>
>     > Cc: darktable forum <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Mask won't apply 
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > The last image that needs a bit of tweaking is this one, because of the 
> 2 very white stripes in the left bottom. I wanted to make that part a little 
> less bright but I couldn't figure out how. The tone equalizer didn't help and 
> the filmic module is too hard to understand for me. I copied and pasted both 
> the image and the history so you get the context as well, for instance the 
> inversion. (See attached file.)
>     > 
>     > Kind regards,
>     > Hieke van Hoogdalem
>     >  
>     > 
>     > Op 07-02-2022 19:09 heeft Hieke van Hoogdalem 
> <hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com> geschreven:
>     > 
>     >     Hi Remco,
>     > 
>     >     Tnx. Yes I always check the dates of tutorials. This one was 2 
> years old so I already expected some UI items to be different. I mainly 
> followed this one because he explains how to apply a mask including the use 
> of the mouse Where to click etc. with free forms... I didn't manage to get 
> that right before.
>     > 
>     >     Thanks for the tips, I do work with scene referred RGB indeed. 
> "Keep in mind that in your case, masking and reducing exposition can lead to 
> strange tone transitions at the edges. That's why I suggested tone equaliser 
> or filmic adjustments instead of masking." Towing (?) the exposure down gave 
> weird results indeed. The tone equalizer was - almost - exactly what I 
> needed. You saved this image! Merci mille fois! Je t'embrasse tès fort et je 
> te donne un grand bisoux __ 
>     > 
>     >     There are other images too though wich need a mask, but for several 
> different reasons. So I'm still looking for learning to work with masks. I 
> have until the end of this week - up until and including Thursday actually - 
> for making these changes and entering my pix for a contest.
>     > 
>     >     And yes, I see the yellow part. What about it? __
>     > 
>     >     Cordialement,
>     >     Hieke van Hoogdalem
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     Op 07-02-2022 18:38 heeft Remco Viëtor <remco.vie...@wanadoo.fr> 
> geschreven:
>     > 
>     >         On lundi 7 février 2022 18:19:57 CET Hieke van Hoogdalem wrote:
>     >         > Hi there,
>     >         > 
>     >         > I'm trying to apply masks. The idea is simple, but I can't 
> get it working. I
>     >         > searched for YouTube tutorials, but they don't cover my 
> problem.
>     >         >(...)
>     >         > So here's the situation. I have this image that I had to 
> brighten up quite a
>     >         > bit, but now a small part is overexposed. I want to use a 
> mask to bring
>     >         > that down. But… when I draw a mask and change the exposure, 
> it's being
>     >         > applied to the complete image. (Yes, I did create a new 
> instance in the
>     >         > expose module before I started to create the mask.)
>     >         If you are using the scene-referred workflow, you could use the 
> tone equaliser 
>     >         for this (or perhaps adjust filmic).
>     > 
>     >         As for the mask, did you visualise it ("circle in square" icon 
> next to "mask 
>     >         refinement) and did it show the area you wanted to mask 
> (yellow) ?
>     > 
>     >         > I found this tutorial that showed something about 'blend 
> mode' and telling
>     >         > that 'normal' applies to the complete image. You have to 
> chose 'mask'. But
>     >         > when I click on 'blend mode' I get a much larger list without 
> the option
>     >         > 'mask'.
>     >         I haven't seen a "mask" option in blendmode ever (that is, the 
> last few 
>     >         years). I found that I always have to check the date on any 
> kind of tutorial, 
>     >         as changes are rather fast (not only for darktable) .
>     >         > 
>     >         > What can I do to make this work?
>     >         First we have to know what went wrong...
>     >         Keep in mind that in your case, masking and reducing exposition 
> can lead to  
>     >         strange tone transitions at the edges. That's why I suggested 
> tone equaliser 
>     >         or filmic adjustments instead of masking.
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >         
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>     so basically, your mask was not applied to the area you intended?
> 
> 
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