Hi Marcial,

If you don’t have a proper colour managed workflow what you are attempting is, 
with dt or any other software,  essentially impossible.  Before even thinking 
about what to do in dt you will need to as a minimum:


1)      Beg/borrow/steal a monitor calibration device and generate a profile 
from this. Then make sure your operating system and/or photo  processing 
software is using that profile. Note that for your specific requirement of 
reproducing the drawings you will want to use specific and controlled lighting 
when you do this and use the same lighting when photographing the drawings.

2)      Get an accurate printer profile made for the specific printer/paper/ink 
 combination you are going to use for printing the drawings.  Or send them off 
to a good printer who supports colour profiled work.

3)      Optionally produce an input profile for your camera, and  in the 
specific lighting conditions you are going to use.  This is an added complexity 
you might not want though and I recommend not bothering with this, unless you 
know enough to know you need it.

After you have done this you can photograph the drawings and do whatever you 
want in dt (or something else) to adjust the image with the reasonable 
expectation that what you see  on the screen is going to be as close as 
possible to what you get on the final print.  Unless you are prepared to set 
this up properly, which is neither quick, nor easy, nor cheap, attempting any 
form of accurate colour work is frankly a waste of time as your print never 
looks like what is on the screen so you have no way of deciding what 
adjustments you actually need.

There is a reason why reproducing drawings accurately is a specialist service – 
it takes time, money and commitment to learn the techniques and set up things 
up.  Which isn’t to say that it can’t be done if you want it enough.

Rgds,
Rob.

From: Marcial Gomez Martin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 21 November 2014 07:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Darktable-users] art reproduction, right colors?


Helo everyone.

I need some help!

I'm trying to reproduce a set of drawins to make copies as faithfully as 
possible. I have used a grey card in order to fix colors (wb)  and exposition. 
I figured I could do that by measuring 127, 127,127 in the card, but the result 
has been absolutely unsatisfactory.

I know I can't control the printer output as I don't have any specific icc 
profile, but even the jpg images are very redish/yellowish, and very clear 
compared to the originals. The printed copies were even worse (clearer more 
saturated and redish/yellowish).

I've been looking into the messages and I'm overwhelmed by all the concepts 
involved. To begin with, I don't know if I should disable the base curve, as it 
tends to add saturation. I don't know if the input color profie should be 
linear or not. Then comes the output color profile "to the rescue":

output, perceptual?;

screen output, ¿?;

output profile: AdobeRGB?;

printer profile, a CMYK icc that I dont have?

screen profile, OS.

Then, in lightroom mode, export, I have another intent (I asume image config 
will take into account the adjustments I've already done) and another profile...

My simple question is: Which would be the best workflow to produce a faithful 
copy of a picture/drawing?

I hope someone can help me if I have made myself clear enough (which I'm not 
sure of)

Thanks in advance.


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