Thanks Jason,
This clears up some questions I had regarding staging and Maven Central.
Thanh
On 31/01/13 10:59 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Thanh,
We will never accept artifacts from a Nexus instance that is not
running the staging suite. The staging suite is the facility that
validates there is a valid POM, javadocs, sources, PGP signatures and
also ensures that a release doesn't get corrupted. We have spent an
enormous amount of time and energy helping Apache, Codehaus, JBoss and
Java.net <http://Java.net> get Nexus Pro instances in place so that
the synchronization of their artifacts to Central are as good as if
they came in through the OSS Nexus instance we host for the community.
So if you're a project that wants to get your artifacts into Maven
Central than just use the facilities that Sonatype provides because
Eclipse can't run a Nexus Pro instance and we will not make any
exceptions for Eclipse even if you re-implemented the whole suite
because we've already solved the problem and we're not validating
another tool chain.
We open sourced all the p2 related tools so those can be extended and
used for many of your purposes, but for Maven artifacts the choices
are use Nexus Pro instance and sync to Central, or have projects
directly work with us to get the artifacts into Central. In the case
of Eclipse I believe the second option is the only real choice at Eclipse.
On Jan 31, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Thanh Ha <thanh...@eclipse.org
<mailto:thanh...@eclipse.org>> wrote:
I had a look at oss.sonatype.org <http://oss.sonatype.org>'s nexus
instance and from what I gather it provides each project with 4
repository services.
project-snapshots (hosted)
project-releases (hosted)
project-with-staging (group)
project repositories (group)
I think if we setup maven.eclipse.org <http://maven.eclipse.org> with
a similar model we can achieve the releases with the
"project-releases" service and nightly/weekly builds with the
"project-snapshots" service.
I'm new to Nexus so it's not clear to me what the difference between
the 2 groups are I hope someone who's used oss.sonatype.org
<http://oss.sonatype.org> might be able to explain. If I had to guess
"project repositories" is a group containing the releases repo and
project-with-staging contains both snapshots and releases? I'm
guessing these groups are alternative URLs to the hosted repos?
As for an entry into maven central I think initially we won't be able
to provide this service as the focus will be on getting projects
using maven.eclipse.org <http://maven.eclipse.org> but it's something
we can look as the service ramps up.
Thanh
On 31/01/13 09:20 AM, Martin Taal wrote:
As a replacement of sonatype, I would need 2 things:
- a place to publish nightly/weekly builds
- an entry in maven central (with a 2 step procedure, that's fine)
I don't need the sonatype ui, so publishing/releasing through maven
commandline would be fine with me.
I think eclipse could offer a location for nightly builds (to be
consumed by maven) and entry point into maven central. Eclipse.org
<http://Eclipse.org> does not need to offer an eternal durable maven
repo. I would just use maven central for that.
gr. Martin
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On 01/31/2013 02:59 PM, Jesse McConnell wrote:
Martin,
And you would not want to use something @ eclipse that didn't have
the staging functionality that exists on oss.sonatype.org
<http://oss.sonatype.org/> correct?
cheers,
jesse
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Martin Taal <mt...@elver.org
<mailto:mt...@elver.org>> wrote:
I agree with Jesse...
Maybe it is best to take maven.eclipse.org down, but don't do
anything else unless someone takes responsibility and there is
funding to do so.
I currently publish EMF Texo/Teneo and EMF jars through
sonatypeto get them on maven.central. It works fine, but I find
it strange that eclipse projects have to use a 3rd party to get
their code on maven central. I would expect eclipse.org
<http://eclipse.org/>to provide a service similar to sonatype...
Just my 2 cents...
gr. Martin
With Regards, Martin Taal
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On 01/31/2013 02:32 PM, Jesse McConnell wrote:
I really don't understand the point of resetting it if there
is not a clear understanding of what roll it will serve within
the organization moving forward and a recommended path for how
projects will interact with it.
If it is only going to be a proxy for maven central, then that
is fine and you should go for it, but if you're planning on
having projects actually deploy to it and/or build out the
story for syncing to maven central then all of that should be
ironed out ahead of time and wired up accordingly.
Maven repositories are meant to be durable and exist forever,
unlike orbit repositories that are transitory and exist for
small windows of time. If you screw something up with Orbit
then no biggy, it will eventually just disappear and problem
solved. With a maven repository once it is released it is
locked away for time eternal, which is why I am such a strong
proponent of having staging repositories so upon release you
can give things a pre-flight check before releasing it and
locking it down.
Once you set this up and take ownership of it you are making a
contract with anyone that uses it that you will support the
stuff in there from that point on. None of this disappearing
repository stuff where you check out an old tag and some
repository you built against is now missing and perhaps
replaced with a different version of some dependency.
cheers,
jesse
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Thanh Ha
<thanh...@eclipse.org <mailto:thanh...@eclipse.org>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Per Bug 394792 I'm looking at moving maven.eclipse.org
<http://maven.eclipse.org/> to become a managed service at
Eclipse. I plan on tackling this issue soon and was
wondering if taking this server down would affect any
projects?
Some things we'd like to do is update the Nexus server
version as well as restart the service from a fresh
configuration, essentially start over.
Thanks,
Thanh
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