Please  see email below from anoop.  Can someone add anoop  to the e group.  
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Subject: Re: [datameet] An inquiry about boundaries of gram and taluka 
panchayats
From: Anoop Aravind <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected],Sudarshan Rodriguez <[email protected]>

Dear All

Its a thrill for me to hear from enthusiasts like you always and I just
noticed that there is Rajesh also marked in one of the mails (I hope he
remember the exchange of information we had at NIRD during the workshop of
June 2012)

Anyway, coming to the point of discussion here, raised by Meera and
followed up by Sudharshan, Vinay and Rajesh; let me clear up the murky
picture that everyone is having as far as spatial data especially
boundaries of Panchayats is concerned

1. Gram Panchayat (GP- the smallest rural administrative body) comprising
of one or more revenue villages does not have the boundaries drawn by any
particular agency (as far as my current knowledge goes) Although Registrar
General of India -Census demarcates the boundaries of Panchayats whenever a
new GP is carved out/merged from existing ones.

2. Ministry of Panchayati Raj (MoPR) has now taken up the initiative to
start the exercise of generating GP boundaries from the Revenue Village
boundaries based on the tagging done in an application called Local
Government Directory (LGD) accessible at *lgdirectory.gov.in.*
In this application, State Panchayati Raj (PR) Departments have started
tagging the respective villages to the respective GPs to which they belong
to. Once this exercise is completed, GP boundaries can be extracted very
easily by merging the village boundaries. (Only in those cases where a
whole/full village forms a GP.
There are instances where villages get split between 2 or more GPs. In such
a case, there is no easy way out but to manually digitize the boundary or
do a GPS survey and upload the coordinates.

3. MoPR will not wait for only the LGD tagging to finish. But it may start
with GPs as point features so that data related to GPs can be tagged on a
GIS and necessary GIS based graphical outputs and analysis can be done
(without boundaries also, whereever possible) As no much area calculation
is supposed to be initiated in the early stages and we definitely can  not
expect 100% data readily available (because this will be the first time in
the history of India that such an exercise on a GP level will be initiated)

4. I am not sure about NRDMS (but I am pretty sure that, boundaries
wherever available are those of Revenue Villages- made available by Survey
of India- authentic and ready to be used) But I don't think the shape files
are available for download. Moreover the question shouldn't be to get the
shapefile:- if you are a developer, get the WMS from NRSC team (incharge of
Bhuwan) or from NIC-GIS division, and use the service to project boundaries
on your application. We need not think that unless we get a shp file our
project doesn't start.

I will make sure that village boundaries are made available as a WMS and
let me see what can be done to make the process more easy.

5. Bhuvan team is coming up with another version called Bhuvan Geo
Panchayat (which will have detailed spatial data generated from satellite
images; i.e. secondary products like land use, land cover, kind of maps
generated using image processing and GIS softwares.) There is a project
called Space based Information for Decentralized Planning (SIS-DP) under
which huge number of such data has been generated for a few States on a
scale of 1:10,000 and for some on a scale of 1:50,000.
All of this will be in public domain just like present bhuvan. And to use
them, you can call them using WMS.

There are huge strides being taken in this regard, and I request
cooperation of intellects like all of you to give valuable inputs for
making Geospatial tech available for our villages and GPs.

*Summary*:-
Gram Panchayat boundaries are being prepared. (since its based on LGD
tagging- done by States themselves- it will be made public once
verification is completed as to whatever village names have been tagged to
GPs are correct or not.)

Taluk/Block Panchayat boundaries- Block boundaries may be/are available not
sure about from where you can download the same.

For any information or suggestion, please call me any time or best, drop a
mail. Let us create the tech for our India through maps. Just think of me
as yours eyes and ears in the government. And think of the Government (not
by any political party names) but as a much higher entity (where many other
intellectuals are working day in and day out to meet demands of future
India.

Jai Hind

-- 
*Anoop Aravind*
Consultant
Ministry of Panchayati Raj
Govt. of India, New Delhi
+91 9962 011 933
[email protected]



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sudarshan Rodriguez <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Those might be for revenue  villages.
>
>  Census follows revenue village system and  is different from panchayat
> village system.  if I am not mistaken a few revenue villages make a
> panchayat
>
> These distinctions are imp. Need to findout what NRDMS and bhuvans . Most
> probably  rev village boundary .
>
> Anoop is a gis person and tech  consultant working on e-governance program
> in the ministry of panchayati raj . I am ccing him on this mail.
> He mentioned a web page they have set up
> Anoop  - your thoughts  and
>  pointers would  be helpful
> More later
> Regards
> Sudarshan
>
>
>
>
> sent on android
>
> "Rajesh D Hanbal (ರಾಜೇಶ)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Panchayat and Village boundaries should be available with NRDMS. I am not
> >sure about the access issues though. The low-resolution pdfs are generally
> >put up on district websites.
> >
> >Bhuvan shows village boundaries. May be you can try your luck there too..
> >
> >Both are government agencies and might need you to put up with a lot of
> >red-tapism.,
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rajesh
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Vinay Venu <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I had taken a look at gadm.org taluk data for Chhattisgarh around 2
> >> months ago, and the data was pre-2011 census. The number of taluks in
> the
> >> census was double of what was present in the census data. Of course,
> your
> >> mileage may vary with different states. We are manually editing these
> for a
> >> little reporting app we are building (our app doesn't need high
> accuracy,
> >> atleast for now).
> >>
> >>
> >> -Vinay
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Sudarshan Rodriguez <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  try gadm.org for taluka boundaries
> >>>
> >>> ( not sure about accuracy- we at TISS are in the process of making of
> >>> making a request for shape files of state dist and taluka boundaries at
> >>> data.gov.in
> >>> will send  you link to endorse ( we need 100 endorsements to get the
> data)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> panchayat boundaries do not exist to my knowledge as of yet
> >>>  MoPR is at present looking geting them done but that depends of the
> >>> state government.
> >>> For that your best luck is with the state government
> >>>
> >>> I was told by someone in MOPR that West Bengal is the only  state where
> >>> they have  mapped panchayat boundaries
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Sudarshan Rodriguez
> >>> Please note the change in my mobile number to +91 9310442441
> >>> Senior Programme Coorindator Director's Office Coastal Area Mapping
> >>> Project/ TISS LAHDC Ladakh Gyurja II Project http://camp.tiss.edu and
> >>> http://ladakh.tiss.edu Email: [email protected]
> >>> [email protected] Mobile: +91 9310442441
> >>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 10:28 AM, Meera Mehta wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Would anybody have an idea about how to get recent e-copies of gram
> >>> /tauka panchayat boundaries  ? Preferably linked to the 2011 census.
> >>>
> >>> best
> >>>
> >>> Meera Mehta
> >>> CEPT University
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