Thanks Anoop

> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:54:45 +0530
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [datameet] An inquiry about boundaries of gram and taluka 
> panchayats
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> 
> Please  see email below from anoop.  Can someone add anoop  to the e group.  
> sent on android
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [datameet] An inquiry about boundaries of gram and taluka 
> panchayats
> From: Anoop Aravind <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected],Sudarshan Rodriguez <[email protected]>
> 
> Dear All
> 
> Its a thrill for me to hear from enthusiasts like you always and I just
> noticed that there is Rajesh also marked in one of the mails (I hope he
> remember the exchange of information we had at NIRD during the workshop of
> June 2012)
> 
> Anyway, coming to the point of discussion here, raised by Meera and
> followed up by Sudharshan, Vinay and Rajesh; let me clear up the murky
> picture that everyone is having as far as spatial data especially
> boundaries of Panchayats is concerned
> 
> 1. Gram Panchayat (GP- the smallest rural administrative body) comprising
> of one or more revenue villages does not have the boundaries drawn by any
> particular agency (as far as my current knowledge goes) Although Registrar
> General of India -Census demarcates the boundaries of Panchayats whenever a
> new GP is carved out/merged from existing ones.
> 
> 2. Ministry of Panchayati Raj (MoPR) has now taken up the initiative to
> start the exercise of generating GP boundaries from the Revenue Village
> boundaries based on the tagging done in an application called Local
> Government Directory (LGD) accessible at *lgdirectory.gov.in.*
> In this application, State Panchayati Raj (PR) Departments have started
> tagging the respective villages to the respective GPs to which they belong
> to. Once this exercise is completed, GP boundaries can be extracted very
> easily by merging the village boundaries. (Only in those cases where a
> whole/full village forms a GP.
> There are instances where villages get split between 2 or more GPs. In such
> a case, there is no easy way out but to manually digitize the boundary or
> do a GPS survey and upload the coordinates.
> 
> 3. MoPR will not wait for only the LGD tagging to finish. But it may start
> with GPs as point features so that data related to GPs can be tagged on a
> GIS and necessary GIS based graphical outputs and analysis can be done
> (without boundaries also, whereever possible) As no much area calculation
> is supposed to be initiated in the early stages and we definitely can  not
> expect 100% data readily available (because this will be the first time in
> the history of India that such an exercise on a GP level will be initiated)
> 
> 4. I am not sure about NRDMS (but I am pretty sure that, boundaries
> wherever available are those of Revenue Villages- made available by Survey
> of India- authentic and ready to be used) But I don't think the shape files
> are available for download. Moreover the question shouldn't be to get the
> shapefile:- if you are a developer, get the WMS from NRSC team (incharge of
> Bhuwan) or from NIC-GIS division, and use the service to project boundaries
> on your application. We need not think that unless we get a shp file our
> project doesn't start.
> 
> I will make sure that village boundaries are made available as a WMS and
> let me see what can be done to make the process more easy.
> 
> 5. Bhuvan team is coming up with another version called Bhuvan Geo
> Panchayat (which will have detailed spatial data generated from satellite
> images; i.e. secondary products like land use, land cover, kind of maps
> generated using image processing and GIS softwares.) There is a project
> called Space based Information for Decentralized Planning (SIS-DP) under
> which huge number of such data has been generated for a few States on a
> scale of 1:10,000 and for some on a scale of 1:50,000.
> All of this will be in public domain just like present bhuvan. And to use
> them, you can call them using WMS.
> 
> There are huge strides being taken in this regard, and I request
> cooperation of intellects like all of you to give valuable inputs for
> making Geospatial tech available for our villages and GPs.
> 
> *Summary*:-
> Gram Panchayat boundaries are being prepared. (since its based on LGD
> tagging- done by States themselves- it will be made public once
> verification is completed as to whatever village names have been tagged to
> GPs are correct or not.)
> 
> Taluk/Block Panchayat boundaries- Block boundaries may be/are available not
> sure about from where you can download the same.
> 
> For any information or suggestion, please call me any time or best, drop a
> mail. Let us create the tech for our India through maps. Just think of me
> as yours eyes and ears in the government. And think of the Government (not
> by any political party names) but as a much higher entity (where many other
> intellectuals are working day in and day out to meet demands of future
> India.
> 
> Jai Hind
> 
> -- 
> *Anoop Aravind*
> Consultant
> Ministry of Panchayati Raj
> Govt. of India, New Delhi
> +91 9962 011 933
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sudarshan Rodriguez <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Those might be for revenue  villages.
> >
> >  Census follows revenue village system and  is different from panchayat
> > village system.  if I am not mistaken a few revenue villages make a
> > panchayat
> >
> > These distinctions are imp. Need to findout what NRDMS and bhuvans . Most
> > probably  rev village boundary .
> >
> > Anoop is a gis person and tech  consultant working on e-governance program
> > in the ministry of panchayati raj . I am ccing him on this mail.
> > He mentioned a web page they have set up
> > Anoop  - your thoughts  and
> >  pointers would  be helpful
> > More later
> > Regards
> > Sudarshan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > sent on android
> >
> > "Rajesh D Hanbal (ರಾಜೇಶ)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Panchayat and Village boundaries should be available with NRDMS. I am not
> > >sure about the access issues though. The low-resolution pdfs are generally
> > >put up on district websites.
> > >
> > >Bhuvan shows village boundaries. May be you can try your luck there too..
> > >
> > >Both are government agencies and might need you to put up with a lot of
> > >red-tapism.,
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Rajesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Vinay Venu <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I had taken a look at gadm.org taluk data for Chhattisgarh around 2
> > >> months ago, and the data was pre-2011 census. The number of taluks in
> > the
> > >> census was double of what was present in the census data. Of course,
> > your
> > >> mileage may vary with different states. We are manually editing these
> > for a
> > >> little reporting app we are building (our app doesn't need high
> > accuracy,
> > >> atleast for now).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Vinay
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Sudarshan Rodriguez <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>  try gadm.org for taluka boundaries
> > >>>
> > >>> ( not sure about accuracy- we at TISS are in the process of making of
> > >>> making a request for shape files of state dist and taluka boundaries at
> > >>> data.gov.in
> > >>> will send  you link to endorse ( we need 100 endorsements to get the
> > data)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> panchayat boundaries do not exist to my knowledge as of yet
> > >>>  MoPR is at present looking geting them done but that depends of the
> > >>> state government.
> > >>> For that your best luck is with the state government
> > >>>
> > >>> I was told by someone in MOPR that West Bengal is the only  state where
> > >>> they have  mapped panchayat boundaries
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  Sudarshan Rodriguez
> > >>> Please note the change in my mobile number to +91 9310442441
> > >>> Senior Programme Coorindator Director's Office Coastal Area Mapping
> > >>> Project/ TISS LAHDC Ladakh Gyurja II Project http://camp.tiss.edu and
> > >>> http://ladakh.tiss.edu Email: [email protected]
> > >>> [email protected] Mobile: +91 9310442441
> > >>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 10:28 AM, Meera Mehta wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Would anybody have an idea about how to get recent e-copies of gram
> > >>> /tauka panchayat boundaries  ? Preferably linked to the 2011 census.
> > >>>
> > >>> best
> > >>>
> > >>> Meera Mehta
> > >>> CEPT University
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