Shirish,

Transitland is just a data warehouse for GTFS datasets and Geotrails is
good for identifying transit reachability factors. But you need perfect
GTFS files to use Geotrails.

The issue is whether to adopt GTFS or not. Its more of creating these
datasets is a time intensive task. Its very hard to explain this to a non
programmer sometimes.

What we need is a much more simpler solution to export to GTFS if pre
recorded data exists. I would like anyone else to not occupy the thread
with GTFS and use the existing hackpads.

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:17 PM, shirish शिरीष <[email protected]> wrote:

> at bottom :-
>
> On 7/7/15, Nikhil VJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Nisha, Srinivas,
> >
> > Thanks.. the idea started out with engaging a college's whole computer
> > engineering department or a prof and his/her students for a full-fledged
> > internship/mou project that extends over at least 3 months. And then I
> > thought it would be better to throw the challenge out in the open instead
> > of locking-in dependency... if the bus authority is the one issuing the
> > challenge then it'll probably carry through and get taken up seriously.
> > Professors usually complain about not having meaty projects for their
> > students' internships. So let's meet that demand.
> >
> > So right now this is how I envision a possible contest timeline (I'm
> > thinking to much ahead but here it is anyway):
> > 1. Announcement with open sharing of data and design requirements (so
> > really kicking it off with all resources made available)
> > 2. Taking in registrations from teams
> > 3. Forming an online community of all participating teams and airing out
> > all doubts, clarifications etc there
> > 4. Setting periodic "checkpoints" of select features that each team must
> > achieve and showcase or else be dropped from the competition. (like
> > achieving map display, achieving stops-editing, on-map editing, GTFS
> > conversion, etc)
> > 5. Final lap of 1 month to get everything together, and have to put up
> > fully functional prototype loaded with data for public review by a set
> > deadline.
> > 6. Some surprises that I don't want to reveal right now, they'll work
> only
> > if kept secret.
> >
> > And here's how I'm thinking of bringing the aspects of collaboration in :
> > Teams can contact each other and merge into one, with no roll-back
> > possibility. This will be easily done IF we haven't kept any prize money
> > that needs to be split. This could lead to, say, a joint solution created
> > by 2 or 3 colleges working together.
> >
> > I don't care if it doesn't work out at the end.. something of this sort
> > will produce something or the other that's useful. After all, when you
> want
> > to hit a target, you need to fire a few degrees upward to account for
> > gravity.
> >
> > What I've visualized in the ppt is basically a visualization of the needs
> > that the folks at PMPML have been telling us again and again over the
> last
> > few months. 2 weeks back the newly appointed CMD also told us that they
> > desperately need this kind of thing, and so I decided to flesh out the
> > requirements so we have something detailed to go with.
> >
> > This would happen at the output end of an ongoing effort to (finally!)
> > standardize the data that they have, bringing it to a format that is both
> > human and machine compatible (and PMPML-approved.. their consent and
> > commitment is critical). So it's taking shape here, please see the
> > "swargate" sheet:
> >
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppFJeb7Dnj6-1yvniH2Q6exQFzK6fM0wsZNn4XZIvkI
> >
> > Base data prepared by an org named ITDP, this data is a few years old but
> > is more recent that the GTFS file we have, and has had ground-truthing
> and
> > stops rationalization done. So the plan is to populate this, and then
> guide
> > the PMPML's transport managers through editing and updating it, and
> > simultaneously we might launch the contest.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Nikhil
> > +91-966-583-1250
> > Pune, India
> > Self-designed learner at Swaraj University
> > <http://www.swarajuniversity.org>
> > http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in
>
> Hi all,
> Was talking to some people and came up with few links which could be
> useful :-
>
> https://mapzen.com/projects/valhalla
> https://github.com/valhalla
>
> https://transit.land/
> https://github.com/transitland
>
> http://transit.geotrellis.com/#!/travelshed
> http://transit.geotrellis.com/travelshed.html
> https://github.com/geotrellis/geotrellis-transit
>
> If anything, it tells that there are more than a few options besides GFTS.
>
> --
>           Regards,
>           Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
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