Craig, All the points you mention will come into applications which are commuter focused, which can developed too but as a different application. The current issue is to develop a system fro depot managers and operations people.
Regards, Srinivas Kodali On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Craig Dsouza <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Nikhil, > Been going over the presentation and first of all this is great work! Very > systematic thinking. > I have added some of my thoughts below. Not all of this is necessary in > v1.0 of this Bus routes mgmt system, but thinking long term, these are > features that i thought were important. > > *Stop viewing* > > - Let users rate/comment on the state/quality of bus stop. > - Give the users the timings (departure/arrival) for their starting > bus stop to the stop they want to go to (some bus maps i've seen only show > what time the bus leaves from its depot so the user does not know what time > it will reach his/her own stop) Maybe you could have an option for 'Leave > now' or 'Leave later' like Google maps > > *Route viewing* > > - Let users comment on the state/quality of the > bus/driver/conductor. Something like the olacabs app. (only makes sense if > more or less the same bus drives on the same route each day) > - Let users see a tab showing the expected and actual arrival times of > the bus (on average, for different days of the week) sort of like what the > irctc website has for trains. This could be enabled with an app that > records bus passenger gps data. I have an irctc app that does the same when > i'm on a train > > *Route management* > > - If the system could somehow show live data for 'number of > passengers' on each trip (based on ticket sales/avg distance travelled) > that could form the basis for more responsive/flexible decision making on > which routes need more frequent buses. It would also give insight into > whether the use of buses in the city is increasing/decreasing, thereby > giving policymakers incentive to improve the system (because metrics show > concrete improvements) > > Besides the above points we could also have social media integration, so > users can share any positive experiences. > Also with this system the mobile app would be as important if not more > important than the web interface, most internet traffic these days is > mobile. > > I also had some thoughts on the discussion and proposal put forth by > Adhiraj. As a separate initiative, it can very well be made the goal for a > modelling exercise, seems like a problem that programmers could do well > with. The goal would be optimizing the routes for 'time taken' and > 'frequency' based on multiple inputs. > > Regards > Craig > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sarang Mahajan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Nikhil, >> A similar exercise was conducted by Mumbai Environmental Social Network >> for the Bus route mapping of BEST buses. It was not a competition but a >> project for MMRDA. It included pasting of maps on the bus stops which >> contain related information of all the routes passing through that stop. It >> has been a successful and recognised project by MESN. I am attaching a >> photo for your reference. It also won the VOLVO sustainable mobility award! >> Please let me know if any such method can be incorporated. >> >> Regards, >> >> *Sarang K. Mahajan* >> >> *Mobile: +91 9011954500 * >> >> On 7 July 2015 at 12:52, Nikhil VJ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Nisha, Srinivas, >>> >>> Thanks.. the idea started out with engaging a college's whole computer >>> engineering department or a prof and his/her students for a full-fledged >>> internship/mou project that extends over at least 3 months. And then I >>> thought it would be better to throw the challenge out in the open instead >>> of locking-in dependency... if the bus authority is the one issuing the >>> challenge then it'll probably carry through and get taken up seriously. >>> Professors usually complain about not having meaty projects for their >>> students' internships. So let's meet that demand. >>> >>> So right now this is how I envision a possible contest timeline (I'm >>> thinking to much ahead but here it is anyway): >>> 1. Announcement with open sharing of data and design requirements (so >>> really kicking it off with all resources made available) >>> 2. Taking in registrations from teams >>> 3. Forming an online community of all participating teams and airing out >>> all doubts, clarifications etc there >>> 4. Setting periodic "checkpoints" of select features that each team must >>> achieve and showcase or else be dropped from the competition. (like >>> achieving map display, achieving stops-editing, on-map editing, GTFS >>> conversion, etc) >>> 5. Final lap of 1 month to get everything together, and have to put up >>> fully functional prototype loaded with data for public review by a set >>> deadline. >>> 6. Some surprises that I don't want to reveal right now, they'll work >>> only if kept secret. >>> >>> And here's how I'm thinking of bringing the aspects of collaboration in : >>> Teams can contact each other and merge into one, with no roll-back >>> possibility. This will be easily done IF we haven't kept any prize money >>> that needs to be split. This could lead to, say, a joint solution created >>> by 2 or 3 colleges working together. >>> >>> I don't care if it doesn't work out at the end.. something of this sort >>> will produce something or the other that's useful. After all, when you want >>> to hit a target, you need to fire a few degrees upward to account for >>> gravity. >>> >>> What I've visualized in the ppt is basically a visualization of the >>> needs that the folks at PMPML have been telling us again and again over the >>> last few months. 2 weeks back the newly appointed CMD also told us that >>> they desperately need this kind of thing, and so I decided to flesh out the >>> requirements so we have something detailed to go with. >>> >>> This would happen at the output end of an ongoing effort to (finally!) >>> standardize the data that they have, bringing it to a format that is both >>> human and machine compatible (and PMPML-approved.. their consent and >>> commitment is critical). So it's taking shape here, please see the >>> "swargate" sheet: >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppFJeb7Dnj6-1yvniH2Q6exQFzK6fM0wsZNn4XZIvkI >>> >>> Base data prepared by an org named ITDP, this data is a few years old >>> but is more recent that the GTFS file we have, and has had ground-truthing >>> and stops rationalization done. So the plan is to populate this, and then >>> guide the PMPML's transport managers through editing and updating it, and >>> simultaneously we might launch the contest. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Nikhil >>> +91-966-583-1250 >>> Pune, India >>> Self-designed learner at Swaraj University < >>> http://www.swarajuniversity.org> >>> http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Nisha Thompson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey >>>> >>>> Wow! This is really interesting. I've added our transport committee >>>> (Suvajit, Srinivas, and Tejas) to the mail. >>>> >>>> Where did this come from? Is this something Pune is interested in >>>> hosting? Or you are asking them to? >>>> >>>> I would suggest for contests to look at a good example of working with >>>> government sites - Design for America - >>>> https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2010/05/26/design-america-winners/ >>>> >>>> I would also say that doing the whole system as a contest is a lot of >>>> work. Would they have to design the entire web interface or just parts of >>>> it? >>>> >>>> Nisa >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Nikhil VJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Friends, >>>>> >>>>> Kindly take a look at this and suggest if you have any ideas. I'll be >>>>> pitching it to PMPML over the next few days. >>>>> >>>>> The subject line is quite long, here it is again: >>>>> >>>>> Draft requirements document for Design Contest for open sourced Bus >>>>> Routes Management System for PMPML >>>>> >>>>> PS: In case the attachment got lost on the way, you can get it online >>>>> here: >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FuLHS84uHuxQEsEquiWxcuiUdkv7Z8l29ImsYay5SHc/edit?usp=sharing >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nikhil >>>>> +91-966-583-1250 >>>>> Pune, India >>>>> Self-designed learner at Swaraj University < >>>>> http://www.swarajuniversity.org> >>>>> http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. 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