Srinivas, Ok no issues, I guess I misunderstood the target audience. So I take back the first two points, but perhaps the 'Route Management' point is relevant to the depot managers too.
Regards Craig On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:41 AM, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: > Craig, > > All the points you mention will come into applications which are commuter > focused, which can developed too but as a different application. The > current issue is to develop a system fro depot managers and operations > people. > > Regards, > Srinivas Kodali > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Craig Dsouza <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Nikhil, >> Been going over the presentation and first of all this is great work! >> Very systematic thinking. >> I have added some of my thoughts below. Not all of this is necessary in >> v1.0 of this Bus routes mgmt system, but thinking long term, these are >> features that i thought were important. >> >> *Stop viewing* >> >> - Let users rate/comment on the state/quality of bus stop. >> - Give the users the timings (departure/arrival) for their starting >> bus stop to the stop they want to go to (some bus maps i've seen only show >> what time the bus leaves from its depot so the user does not know what >> time >> it will reach his/her own stop) Maybe you could have an option for 'Leave >> now' or 'Leave later' like Google maps >> >> *Route viewing* >> >> - Let users comment on the state/quality of the >> bus/driver/conductor. Something like the olacabs app. (only makes sense if >> more or less the same bus drives on the same route each day) >> - Let users see a tab showing the expected and actual arrival times >> of the bus (on average, for different days of the week) sort of like what >> the irctc website has for trains. This could be enabled with an app that >> records bus passenger gps data. I have an irctc app that does the same >> when >> i'm on a train >> >> *Route management* >> >> - If the system could somehow show live data for 'number of >> passengers' on each trip (based on ticket sales/avg distance travelled) >> that could form the basis for more responsive/flexible decision making on >> which routes need more frequent buses. It would also give insight into >> whether the use of buses in the city is increasing/decreasing, thereby >> giving policymakers incentive to improve the system (because metrics show >> concrete improvements) >> >> Besides the above points we could also have social media integration, so >> users can share any positive experiences. >> Also with this system the mobile app would be as important if not more >> important than the web interface, most internet traffic these days is >> mobile. >> >> I also had some thoughts on the discussion and proposal put forth by >> Adhiraj. As a separate initiative, it can very well be made the goal for a >> modelling exercise, seems like a problem that programmers could do well >> with. The goal would be optimizing the routes for 'time taken' and >> 'frequency' based on multiple inputs. >> >> Regards >> Craig >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sarang Mahajan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Nikhil, >>> A similar exercise was conducted by Mumbai Environmental Social Network >>> for the Bus route mapping of BEST buses. It was not a competition but a >>> project for MMRDA. It included pasting of maps on the bus stops which >>> contain related information of all the routes passing through that stop. It >>> has been a successful and recognised project by MESN. I am attaching a >>> photo for your reference. It also won the VOLVO sustainable mobility award! >>> Please let me know if any such method can be incorporated. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> *Sarang K. Mahajan* >>> >>> *Mobile: +91 9011954500 * >>> >>> On 7 July 2015 at 12:52, Nikhil VJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Nisha, Srinivas, >>>> >>>> Thanks.. the idea started out with engaging a college's whole computer >>>> engineering department or a prof and his/her students for a full-fledged >>>> internship/mou project that extends over at least 3 months. And then I >>>> thought it would be better to throw the challenge out in the open instead >>>> of locking-in dependency... if the bus authority is the one issuing the >>>> challenge then it'll probably carry through and get taken up seriously. >>>> Professors usually complain about not having meaty projects for their >>>> students' internships. So let's meet that demand. >>>> >>>> So right now this is how I envision a possible contest timeline (I'm >>>> thinking to much ahead but here it is anyway): >>>> 1. Announcement with open sharing of data and design requirements (so >>>> really kicking it off with all resources made available) >>>> 2. Taking in registrations from teams >>>> 3. Forming an online community of all participating teams and airing >>>> out all doubts, clarifications etc there >>>> 4. Setting periodic "checkpoints" of select features that each team >>>> must achieve and showcase or else be dropped from the competition. (like >>>> achieving map display, achieving stops-editing, on-map editing, GTFS >>>> conversion, etc) >>>> 5. Final lap of 1 month to get everything together, and have to put up >>>> fully functional prototype loaded with data for public review by a set >>>> deadline. >>>> 6. Some surprises that I don't want to reveal right now, they'll work >>>> only if kept secret. >>>> >>>> And here's how I'm thinking of bringing the aspects of collaboration in >>>> : >>>> Teams can contact each other and merge into one, with no roll-back >>>> possibility. This will be easily done IF we haven't kept any prize money >>>> that needs to be split. This could lead to, say, a joint solution created >>>> by 2 or 3 colleges working together. >>>> >>>> I don't care if it doesn't work out at the end.. something of this sort >>>> will produce something or the other that's useful. After all, when you want >>>> to hit a target, you need to fire a few degrees upward to account for >>>> gravity. >>>> >>>> What I've visualized in the ppt is basically a visualization of the >>>> needs that the folks at PMPML have been telling us again and again over the >>>> last few months. 2 weeks back the newly appointed CMD also told us that >>>> they desperately need this kind of thing, and so I decided to flesh out the >>>> requirements so we have something detailed to go with. >>>> >>>> This would happen at the output end of an ongoing effort to (finally!) >>>> standardize the data that they have, bringing it to a format that is both >>>> human and machine compatible (and PMPML-approved.. their consent and >>>> commitment is critical). So it's taking shape here, please see the >>>> "swargate" sheet: >>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppFJeb7Dnj6-1yvniH2Q6exQFzK6fM0wsZNn4XZIvkI >>>> >>>> Base data prepared by an org named ITDP, this data is a few years old >>>> but is more recent that the GTFS file we have, and has had ground-truthing >>>> and stops rationalization done. So the plan is to populate this, and then >>>> guide the PMPML's transport managers through editing and updating it, and >>>> simultaneously we might launch the contest. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nikhil >>>> +91-966-583-1250 >>>> Pune, India >>>> Self-designed learner at Swaraj University < >>>> http://www.swarajuniversity.org> >>>> http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Nisha Thompson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey >>>>> >>>>> Wow! This is really interesting. I've added our transport committee >>>>> (Suvajit, Srinivas, and Tejas) to the mail. >>>>> >>>>> Where did this come from? Is this something Pune is interested in >>>>> hosting? Or you are asking them to? >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest for contests to look at a good example of working with >>>>> government sites - Design for America - >>>>> https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2010/05/26/design-america-winners/ >>>>> >>>>> I would also say that doing the whole system as a contest is a lot of >>>>> work. Would they have to design the entire web interface or just parts of >>>>> it? >>>>> >>>>> Nisa >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Nikhil VJ <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kindly take a look at this and suggest if you have any ideas. I'll be >>>>>> pitching it to PMPML over the next few days. >>>>>> >>>>>> The subject line is quite long, here it is again: >>>>>> >>>>>> Draft requirements document for Design Contest for open sourced Bus >>>>>> Routes Management System for PMPML >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: In case the attachment got lost on the way, you can get it online >>>>>> here: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FuLHS84uHuxQEsEquiWxcuiUdkv7Z8l29ImsYay5SHc/edit?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nikhil >>>>>> +91-966-583-1250 >>>>>> Pune, India >>>>>> Self-designed learner at Swaraj University < >>>>>> http://www.swarajuniversity.org> >>>>>> http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. 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