Sorry for coming in here late but I can confirm I had similar experience with 
ver 5.0 as well, when it was 1st released - lots of bells and whistles but I 
couldn't find a way to get window positioning, font type & size, and lots of 
other goodies to stick either,  So I also went back to 4.5. As I can have up to 
10 dps running at one time I prefer to let the system position the window so 
most are visible with a sort of cascade effect. Unfortunately Tame was also 
unresponsive to any queries raised then - which must be a least a couple of 
years ago now.
Ver 4.5 is working fine apart from one dos program that intermittently loses 
the cursor (and for which I think tame is the culprit) but the cursor problem 
has never been an issue with DP and we'd be totally snookered without it. 

Colin Roberts
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Iannantuoni 
  To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 05:21
  Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Screen window position with Tame


  Thanks Don,

  I have downloaded and am now using version 4.5 too. It doesn't have quite so 
many options as version 5 but I don't really need anything fancy, it just works!

  Michael

  Don Codling wrote: 
    November 6, 2007 

    Hi Michael: 

    I'm still using TAME version 4.5. All I did was install TAME and ignore it. 
There is nothing in my Autoexec.bat or Config.sys files.  TAME has added itself 
to autoexec.nt.  It runs when I open DP - it probably slows the opening by half 
a second, and I have no problems.  When I click that top left icon, the upper 
part of the menu is as you report. Then I get a lower part, Close, edit, 
defaults, properties, hide mouse pointer.  That properties choice lets me 
choose a clear crisp font & size for DP, get the maximum possible use of my 
screen for a full view of DP in a window, position the DP window, etc. 

    Don Codling 
    WP 12.0.0.602 
    DP 2.6x 
    Windows XP home, SP2 
    512 MBytes RAM 

    Michael Iannantuoni wrote: 

      Hi Don, 

      When I click the icon at the top left corner of the DP window, 
"properties" is not a menu option. What I see, other than the standard Windows 
DOS box options of Restore (greyed out), Move, Size, Minimize & Maximize, are 
various Tame options of Edit, View, Help, Tame Settings Files, Troubleshooting 
- all these have sub menus but nowhere do I see anything about window position. 
I think this is because I let Tame load at Windows start-up rather than as part 
of a batch file to run my DP application. 

      I will try the batch file approach and report back. 

      Thanks for your help, 

      Michael 


      Don Codling wrote: 

        November 5, 2007 

        Michael, since nobody else has offered a solution, let me try. 

        I do not use TAME at all for the purpose of positioning DP (I do use 
TAME). To set the position (& fonts & window size), I click the icon at the top 
left corner of the DP window, & choose "properties" from the menu. 

        Window position & theoretical size is set in the layout tab. I choose 
screen buffer size & layout size 80 x 25.  That gives me a maximum DP screen, 
so far as I can tell. (The actual size of the window is set by adjusting the 
font on the font tab.) 

        Then I set the position in the Window position section - I choose 0,0 
for the top left corner of my screen, but you can adjust it as you want it.  Be 
sure that you have unchecked "Let system position window". 

        Click OK, & then choose "Save properties for future windows with the 
same title".  That means it affects all DP databases, & retains the settings 
you have used. 
        Click OK again & you have it. 

        Hope this works for you as well as it does for me. 

        Don Codling 
        WP 12.0.0.602 
        DP 2.6x 
        Windows XP home, SP2 
        512 MBytes RAM 

        Michael Iannantuoni wrote: 

          I have tried asking this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it bounced back two 
days later. 

          Does anyone have a good knowledge please of Tame: I have Tame 5 
running on a Windows XP Pro system and despite removing the ";*" from the line 
"AutoSaveSettings=on  ; Save view settings and use on next run" in 
"_ProcessStartup.init.tam", my  DP applications do not remember the position of 
their window between sessions. What am I doing wrong please? 

          Michael 

          
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