Hi Charlie and Brian ... Lurking in the background enjoying your exchange. As always, learning from Brian's vast experience and knowledge.
All the best to both of you and all other DP'ers Tony -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles G. Wolf Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:04 PM To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Upgrading from 2.3c Thanks, Brian. That's a fantastic sheet. I'm not sure if I knew about your dad. I'm sorry, but I'm glad you got to meet him. I remember our conversation in Cal. Russia, Mongolia and China! I'd like to hear about that. Thanks for all the info. I'm hard at work redesigning. It's not easy when you haven't developed in a while. Take care. Charlie Brian Hancock wrote: Hi Charles, Good luck with the switch, I think you will be relatively safe with the change but it is good to be cautious... By the way, I wrote myself a DP Cheatsheet, which if you glance over it you might see some new features since 2.3c which may make your job easier, http://www.brileigh.com/DPCheatsheet.pdf By the way, you do not need to be developing public web applications to take advantage of DP web's capabilities... For example In almost ever major DP application I have written there has been an element of Customer Relationsihp Management. Occasionally calls by clients are part of an "incident", that ideally one person should by default handle, or customer might have been assigned to specific customer servcies people or teams of people. With VoIP PABX's (IPBX) DataPerfect could easily make your phones smarter. Most IPBX's support XML based inbound dial plans, using your DP application could could add a few tables that allow the phone system to enquire on the DP application and route calls to the correct people. Because DP is so quick and easy for creating XML solutions, the sky is the limit, perhaps by using VoiceXML your application could provide messages to users about the status of their shipments. VoIP PBX hardware is quite inexpensive and if you have clients still using DP applications then being able to add this level of technology on top of DP could keep them running for years more. Things Down Under are great... Jake is almost 15 months old now... I have cut my official work week down to 3 days so I can look after him the other 2 days... I haven;t been back to England for a while, my father passed away nearly 2 years ago now... I am glad we had the opportunity to meet each other before he died... I have only just got back from a vacation through Russia Mongolia and China... it was great fun... Its hard getting back into the swing of work... Regards Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles G. Wolf To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Upgrading from 2.3c Hi Brian, I'm not using DP for any web applications. Mine is a more traditional use -- the one I showed you in California. I think I'll make my changes in 2.3c, then when that all looks good, test a switch to 2.6. That way, if there are changes or problems, I know where they came from. Thanks. BTW, how are things down your way? How's England? Charlie Brian Hancock wrote: Hi Charles, Version 2.6x supports commandline arguments to import a file in a DP Transaction Log format. /EI-filename So for example if you had an application that you wished to import data from, you could take its output massage it into the Transaction Log format and directly import it into DP. I use this for dynamic web application with DP as the backend database... It brings the reliability power and simplicity of DP as a multiuser database and allows you to do things that were unimagineable with the previous versions. If you are using DP for any production of HTML reports, then the new feature of conversion of the ampersand symbol and other standard XML entities to their web form makes life alot easier. For instance when using the ;W field print indicator on am alphanumeric field contain an "&" charcter it is converted to & in the ouput which will be correctly interpreted in a browser. It makes creation of XML files a breeze which means you can use DP together with many more applications. You mentioned that you are worried about having to rework reports... I can't remember having to do that, except for a minor bug relating to creation of WordPerfect merge files. But it is a simple thing to get around. Regards Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles G. Wolf To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Upgrading from 2.3c Hi back to you Brian, Nice to hear from you. In 2.3c, panel links are restricted to the related child records. There's an old saying that says, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." When I read about others having to rework reports, etc., I got gun shy. What are the improvements? What do you mean by an alternate means of importing records with web potential? Charlie Brian Hancock wrote: G'day Charles, One issue would possibly be the traversing of Panel Links with the F5 key... In 2.3c is gave you access to all records in the target/child panel link and not just the ones related to the displayed record. I can't think of anything else, except to say that I am surprised you hadn't upgraded long before now.... and why wouldn't you move up to the lastest version 2.6x, which give you an alternate means of importing records with web potential, as well as a few other nice things. Bye Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles G. Wolf To: DataPerfect Users Discussion Group Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: [Dataperf] Upgrading from 2.3c Hi Everybody, I have to make some changes to a database I built years ago. I thought the might be the right time to upgrade from 2.3c to 2.6h. But before I did so, I wanted to find out what the differences are, and whether it would necessitate changing reports. I read that there were report changes that had to be made when upgrading from the 2.2x series. Thanks. 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