Hi Charles,

I am a little lost, would you like to send the STR to my personal email [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] so I can get my head around what you are doing. 

Regards
Brian

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles G. Wolf 
  To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group 
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Mailing list management


  Hey Brian,

  I'm working on this Address Management panel, and with an idea from Rich 
Bragonje, I now have a pick list from which to choose a reason for a 
return/change.  Some reasons for removal (customer calls or I decide to remove 
name) demand an immediate removal from mailings, while others (undeliverable 
mail) must wait for a second occurrence before.  While an address change 
happens immediately and the customer stays on mailing lists.
  being removed.  

  I can't figure an elegant way to do this.  And, I'm having trouble getting my 
mind around Keep a Total.  I know KAT should be used for the 
second-occurrance-needed situation.  And that there must be a field back on the 
main Name panel.  But can I use that same field for the situation that demands 
an immediate removal, or do I need another field.  How to implement the KAT 
also flummoxes me.

  It's been 10 years since I've done serious design work on this db, and I'm 
rusty.  I would appreciate any pointers.

  Thanks.

  Charlie


  Brian Hancock wrote: 
    You could place a second field on the parent panel and initialise it to say 
"X" on create, and set a formula to have it change to "" when the kept total 
field reaches 2. You can then use an Exception List onthe index so that if that 
field is empty then the record is not visible. (Remember not to keep an 
exception list on all indexes, otherwise the record will be hidden from 
everything until you remove the exception list... even export and imports will 
might cause you to create orphaned child records...  

    The Keep a total is one of my favourite things with DP. Apart from keeping 
total and setting flag you can use it for such things as forcing DP to create 
related records when it might otherwise not, and you can use it for conditional 
incrementing when you do not want to use recursive numbering . (For instance 
line numbers in invoice details, and then use formula on Create to use the kept 
total + 1 as the next line number, etc...  btw recursive number is better in 
that case anyway., just harder to implement.)

    Regards
    Brian


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Charles G. Wolf 
      To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group 
      Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:36 AM
      Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Mailing list management


      Hi Brian,

      That is exactly what I'll do.  I forgot about Keep a Total because I've 
never used it!  Your suggestion is easy to implement.

      Any idea on how to mark hte date when the record reached two returns and 
thus, is off the list?

      Charles

      P.S.  I solved the previous problem by creating an "Outside List" child 
panel, with an indicator in the parent panel whether there are records in the 
child panel.  Then with each mailing that's been specified from the outside 
source, I import their list into the Outside List panel (my unique ID is still 
with their record), run the report that creates the mailing record, then delete 
the records from the Outside List panel.  Works like a dream.


      Brian Hancock wrote:

        Hi Charles,

        I guess you are storing returns in some child panel?  If so, using Keep 
a Total, can be used to count the number of records matching a criteria (ie 
formula on a flag field indicating 1 or 0 . The kept total is on the parent 
panel, and if you do not want to chow it or take up valuable real estate then 
use a G9::H field. Refer to that field to check that it is less than 2 when 
send ing mailings.

        Regards
        Brian

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Charles G. Wolf 
          To: DataPerfect Users Discussion Group 
          Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:01 AM
          Subject: [Dataperf] Mailing list management


          Hi Everybody,

          Does anybody here have experience with mailing list management?  
Specifically, I want to track returns, so after two returns, the name is 
flagged off the mailing list.  I also want the date the name was flagged off 
recorded.  

          Any suggestions?

          Thanks.

          Charlie Wolf

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