It should be relatively simple to set up a linux distribution cd which would
function as a dataperfect application server. Would be useful for the
community as a whole, as well.
Even better if it included dp driving a web server and/or the java tool kit
announced earlier.
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:09:18 +1300
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Does DP2.6x works on a Windows Terminal server2008???
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your thoughts. Know absolutely nothing about Linux but
definitely food for thought. We reluctantly went to Windows NT from System
Manager due to Y2k issues with SM back in 2000. Actually NT (with citrix) has
actually been very goodfor us. The only time we need to reboot is when a backup
tape gets stuck in a tape drive and rebooting with your finger on the release
button is the only way to release it.
But we find increasingly we get left behind - due to NT limitions as time
passes. eg can't go past version IE6, and the later Java
scripts that the banks are starting to use means we can't access the
banks off our system anymore due to IE version, but now have to go direct via
the XP client boxes running a later ie version. So far still able to get round
things but its starting to get messy and as Don says the writings on the
wall. The server box is getting on too. Doubt if you could build a new box that
will run NT today. I'm too long in the tooth to start again on the 20 years of
dataperfect programming in something else, so in a perfect world we need a OS
that will cope with DP and our accounting system (written in Cobal) , but
will also allow us to access the internet with all the latest bells and
whistles functions. Do you think Linux will enable us to do that? I have a
vague recollection that maybe Ralph was using Linux back in 2004 when the
conference was on.
Once the dust has settled after Xmas hols and we are back into the swing of
things, I will get in touch directly, if I may, for any further insights you
may
have. A quick google of linux produces a large range of Linux versions
available. In meantime what would you suggest we look at as a starting point
for
a linux novice, and which version would you recommend - Debian? seemed a good
non-commercial option at the limited time we had a looking
Thanks again for your input.
BTW I'm enjoying what tennis I get a chance to see at the Aussie Open
at the moment on the TV.
And Don - Echo what Brian said - It was a pleasure.
Cheers
Colin
----- Original Message -----
From:
Brian Hancock
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 25 January 2010 20:44
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Does DP2.6x works
on a Windows Terminal server2008???
As an alternative to
running Terminal Server have you given some thought to running it on a Linux
Server.
DataPerfect runs very
well under DOSEMU on Linux (or probably even DOSBox). You do not get the
processor hogging of Windows, and you can fine tune it quite well. Linux
servers can be quite modest in terms of power in comparison to Windows
servers, and with Open Source software, it makes it a very inexpensive and
incredibly reliable solution. You would find that a Linux server running DP,
would rarely need a restart, the security will be far better, and life can be
far better without the Windows Server, its far more of a set and forget
solution.
For the remote access
you can use VNC Viewers, or another open source technology especially for
deployment across slower internet connections is NX. Google has just has
recently acquired and made an NX Open Source server available. NX
Technology uses far lower bandwidth, as it uses some smart caching algorithms
to deliver content in comparison with VNC. You can publish entire desktops,
(as you usually do with Terminal Server), or you can publish individual
applications (like Citrix), so the application ends up on the user’s desktop
just like a local application.. Take a look here for more info
http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
So you can take your
native DP applications and deploly them readily across the net, or a LAN/WAN
and once you have done this, and after this is you need it really is just a
hop step and a jump to web enabling these
applications.
So if Microsoft does
make life harder, it might actually be a good thing, because moving your apps
across to Linux might be the best and least expensive thing you have ever
done.
Brian
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Don Friedman
Sent: Monday, 25 January 2010 12:20
PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Does DP2.6x works
on a Windows Terminal server 2008???
Colin,
It would seem that the "squeeze" we all anticipated a
decade ago is starting to be felt. While I don't run Server 2008 I am very
curious as to how and if this can resolve
itself.
Don
P.S. FYI - the young man from NZ is now my
son-in-law. We're quite happy for both of them and for the time being at
least
they're here.
2010/1/24 Colin Roberts <[email protected]>
We have been testing using vmware,
but as per earlier post this thread - Server 2003 on virtual machine runs
fine
but Server 2008 hogs CPU so that multiple copies of DP will not run
concurrently, and no current version of Tame seems to be able to control
the CPU usage with 2008.
Anyone actually got multiple
copies of DP running on Windows Server 2008
successfully?
Colin
Roberts
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Pedersen
To: [email protected]
Sent:
Saturday, 23 January 2010 05:28
Subject: Re:
[Dataperf] Does DP2.6x works on a Windows Terminal server 2008
???
You should also be able to run DP by
creating a virtual os - using either of the popular products out the there
-
I forget the names VMWare? I know I have successfully done it in a
couple of instances.
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:29:03
+0100
Subject: [Dataperf] Does DP2.6x works on a Windows Terminal server
2008 ???
Hello fellow DP
users,
In my Dutch accounting firm we
will move to a Windows Terminal Server
2008.
The company installing keeps
telling me that DP will absolutely not run on
this.
Any help / suggestions /
solutions will be very welcome.
Thanks in
advance
Met
vriendelijke groet,
Peter
Boekestijn
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