Gerard check this <http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1080> and
see if works for you. Also I remember someone advising to use Dosbox
"megabuild". I don't remember exactly why now but in My XP(32bits) I'm
using it.
rgds.
Em 08-12-2012 08:03, Gerard van Loenhout escreveu:
Thank you all for the feedback I received on my Win 7 64bits posting.
Virtual PC does not work on Win 7 Home.
Dosbox is very slow with the screen buildup when you have a full
'Related Records Window'. And I have many.
So after going through Bob's list I have decided to install one of the
new PCs with Win XP.
Unless...someone knows about VirtualBox. Any experience here?
Gerard
2012/12/6 Gerard van Loenhout <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Goodday to you all,
Just like Brian I kept Geoff Worboys list as well.
It's now 3 years later and I have bought my first Windows
7 (64bit) PC.
Should I reinstall it with Win XP or did someone already find an
*easy* way to run DP on Win7?
By the way: I don't care about printing. The DP files are on a
network drive.
So, if someone knows an easy way please share it with me.
Regards
Gerard van Loenhout
2010/1/26 Brian Hancock <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi Geoff,
Nice research, I will keep this posting as a good reference
for some of the
options available.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Geoff
Worboys
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 5:53 PM
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Subject: [Dataperf] DP into the future
Hi All,
Some recent posts by Don Friedman inspired this essay and idea.
He said:
> It would seem that the "squeeze" we all anticipated a decade
> ago is starting to be felt.
and
> I miss the continuity of our DP efforts but I have to believe
> that the handwriting is on the wall.
I agree with these sentiments, the push from Microsoft to leave
16bit behind is beginning to really squeeze. This post is an
attempt to consolidate a list of some of the ways to keep DP
productive a bit longer.
I've been mostly silent on this list for many years... until a
few days ago when discussions relating to running DP on x64
versions of Windows highlighted that I probably could not run
DP (directly) on my own system. I believe I had read about
this previously but because I no longer use DP on a regular
basis I had not thought to check it out.
I got my clients away from DP over 10 years go; the old DP
application started only occasionally to retrieve very old
payroll data (and getting more and more rare). But this does
highlight that there may be several (many?) years after you
officially finish with DP that you (or your successors) may
still want to run old DP apps. Even now, when all the old
payroll data is out of date even of legal requirement, I would
be reluctant to have a system where I could no longer run DP
(one way or another).
I already use VMware for other reasons so my own situation is
fairly straight forward, but I can imagine, from what I have
seen on this list, that others have more sophisticated
requirements than my own.
There are many possibilities, below are some that I know about.
I have NOT tried all the items in this list, they are simply
the results of my researches (now and in the past):
Free (DOS capable/compatible) operating systems (to be used
directly or combined with emulators or virtualisation):
. FreeDOS - http://www.freedos.org/
- Claims 100% compatibility with MS-DOS.
- Open-source; source and binary distributions
- Last update: v0.73 - May 2009
. DR-DOS/OpenDOS Enhancement Project -
http://www.drdosprojects.de/
- Not exactly open-source, see the web-site
- Last update: v7.01.08 - Jul 2009
. ReactOS - http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
- Replacement for MS Windows XP (still in alpha
and not feature-complete)
- Open source; source and binary distributions
including VMware and VirtualBox images.
- I read that it does not (yet) run 16bit apps (DOS)
but perhaps it can run DOSbox or other emulator
to allow execution of DP
- Last update: v0.3.11 Dec 2009
. Linux can run some of the DOS emulators below and
also has WINE (a Windows emulator) available that
may solve some situations.
Emulators:
. DOSbox - http://www.dosbox.com/
- A 32bit DOS emulation application
- Windows, Linux, Mac and others (will run
inside 64bit Windows)
- Can execute (at least some) 16bit DOS apps including
many of the utilities available with FreeDOS.
- Open-source; source and binary distributions
- Last update: v0.73 - May 2009
. DOSEMU - http://www.dosemu.org
- A 32bit DOS emulation application
- Linux systems only
- Can execute (at least some) 16bit DOS apps
- Open-source; source and binary distributions
- Last update: v1.4.0.1 - May 2007 (but some
activity showing in sourceforge through 2010)
. Bochs - http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
- A 32bit x86 PC emulator
- Windows, Linux, Mac and others (will run
inside 64bit Windows)
- Can execute many x86 operating systems
- Open-source; source and binary distributions
- Last update: v2.4.2 - Nov 2009
. JPC - http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/
- A (32bit?) x86 PC emulator
- Java (most operating systems)
- Can execute many x86 operating systems
- Open-source; source and binary distributions
- Last update: Jul 2009
Virtualisation:
. Microsoft - have several virtualisation solutions;
Virtual PC, App-V, Hyper-V etc.
http://www.microsoft.com/virtualization/en/us/default.aspx
- Latest versions run only under Windows 7
- Latest versions officially support only Windows 7,
Vista and XP guest systems
- Older versions can support a wider range of host and
guest operating systems - if you can get them.
- Commercial products with some free offerings
. VMware - have several virtualisation solutions;
Player, Workstation, Fusion, Server, ESXi etc.
http://www.vmware.com/
- (Where applicable) can run under several operating
systems including: Windows (XP thru 7), Linux
and Mac (see the Fusion product).
- Supports many guest operating systems including:
MS-DOS, Windows (WFW, 95 thru 7), Linux, Novell,
FreeBSD, Sun
- Provides additional tools to install on guests to
improve integration with the host, these include
support for guests: Win95 and later, Linux, Solaris,
FreeBSD, Netware
- Older versions can operate under (be hosted by) older
versions of Windows/Linux etc.
- Commercial products with some free offerings
. VirtualBox - http://www.virtualbox.org/
- Can run under several operating systems including:
Windows (XP thru 7), Linux, Solaris and Mac
- Supports many guest operating systems including:
MS-DOS, Windows (3.1, 95 thru 7), Linux, Solaris,
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OS/2 Warp 4.5.
- Provides additional tools to install on guests to
improve integration with the host, these include
support for guests: WinNT and later, Linux, Solaris
and OS/2,
- Mixed licence options; includes an open-source/free
version (that excludes certain important features
like RDP and USB support) and a free for personal
use (or evaluation) edition with all features.
And as I noted on a previous posting there are many other
virtualisation/emulation products, some of which can be found
listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtual_machines
Idea:
Where all this is leading is the idea that the community here
could put together instructions and/or installations to assist
users to migrate to some useful alternative DP configuration
and so offer an even longer future.
. disk images (using FreeDOS and DP etc) ready to use in
one or more of the emulators listed above
. installation/zip collections of tested configurations
(for example; DOSbox, FreeDOS and DP).
. VMware and/or VirtualBox images with appropriate
installation/configuration:
- FreeDOS and DP
- Linux / WINE / DOSEMU|DOSbox and DP
- ReactOS and DOSbox and DP
(It would have been neat to include TAME in some/any of
the above... maybe he would permit an evaluation version
to be installed.)
The first two points I suggest would best be created as network
ready; waiting for the user to direct the configuration to
specific network paths and printers. Only the third option is
probably practical to create with it's own disk capacity for
databases etc.
I don't actually have the time to try all these out myself,
these are just some thoughts to see what people think. If any
people here had time to experiment with some of these options
(or others that may be out there), then documenting the results
could help other people looking to solve particular problems.
--
Geoff Worboys
Telesis Computing
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