Hi all,

On 24 Feb 2022, at 16:48, Edward Shryane via db-wg wrote:
> This is intentional and as currently implemented, we do not allow geofeed on 
> any assignments that are reasonably assumed to be related to one individual 
> user.
>
> From the Legal analysis in November:

I am very puzzled by this entire thread.

We’re in this giant thread, picking apart statuses and prefix sizes, with the 
goal of reliably determining when an inet(6)num is considered “reasonably 
assumed to be related to one individual user”, because legal said you can’t 
have a geofeed attribute then. Which they have said because at that point, this 
would introduce additional personal data which creates GDPR issues. Right?

To start with, this works in one direction: if my ISP gives me, an individual 
person, a /56, and creates an inet6num for that, and adds a geofeed attribute, 
I can see the case that geofeed on that inet6num could be seen as personal 
data. But then, the actual issue is with the inet6num being created, rather 
than the geofeed attribute specifically. All the concerns about geofeed apply 
to all the other fields. If my ISP puts my name in the netname, we have exactly 
the same kind of problem. So the issue here would not be “does the database 
allow geofeed” but “which inet(6)nums are being created, do they contain 
personal data, and does that meet GDPR?”.

But it gets worse: by having a list of rules of where you can add geofeed, we 
haven’t stopped people from publishing personal data. If I publish a geofeed 
for my /32 ALLOCATED-BY-RIR, I could list every individual customer with a /48 
in there with their location. It can be as granular and personal as I want. So 
we haven’t actually prevented any publication of personal data.

In short: this conversation sounds like we think the geofeed attribute says 
something about the location of an inet(6)num. But actually, it may say 
something about each individual IP address in that inet(6)num.

Now, you could argue that that is my problem: the geofeed is on my server, this 
is about my customers, I’m responsible. The RIPE db merely contains a URL. But 
if that is the position, why can’t I put a URL, where I am responsible for the 
contents, in my ASSIGNED PI /48? Either the RIPE db is responsible for the 
personal data in that URL, and by extension we consider that as publishing 
personal data in the RIPE db, or it is not.

Sasha

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