Hi,

On 26 May 2025, at 15:21, Leo Vegoda <l...@vegoda.org> wrote:
> One reason I left it as optional in the text is some pushback I had
> when drafting it from people who told me that they almost never used
> e-mail any more. I'm not convinced that e-mail is as common as many
> would like. Nonetheless, there's no need to run. A walking pace is
> fine.
> I have no objection to e-mail being retained as mandatory.

Yes, to some degree the fragmentation in contacts already exists, but I would 
prefer the RIPE database not to facilitate it too much. Especially when it 
involves closed platforms owned entirely by a single corporation. I do not see 
an ideal solution, but keeping e-mail mandatory for now feels reasonable.

>> Are you intentionally leaving out zone-c and abuse-c, which, if I'm not 
>> mistaken, are also references to role or person objects? I understand the 
>> abuse-mailbox attribute being a special additional requirement, but reading 
>> your proposal literally, we would still require a postal address when a role 
>> is used as abuse-c and tech-c, but not when it's only used for tech-c.
>> 
>> I don't know whether part of this is oversight or intent, but I think the 
>> NWI should at least explicitly mention zone-c/abuse-c.
> 
> My thought was to work in Database WG to establish the capability.
> Then, if the people in the DNS and Security WGs want to take advantage
> of it they can do so.

That does not sound practical to me. We should not end up with radically 
different layouts and validation rules for a role/person in the DB, depending 
on whether it is referenced from a tech-c or a zone-c. If we want to defer 
zone-c/abuse-c to other WGs, they should at least be involved early - I would 
prefer us to adjust role/person in a single change to a new set of 
requirements. It would be confusing to say to users "yes, your role object is 
valid, but you tried to use it in a zone-c, and you can't do that until you 
remove the signal contact attribute".

Sasha
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