Use of the word "unsubscribe" - the inclusion of an email address in the body of a 
message and other such things that we accept in use on the list will get a reasonably 
high "spam" score from things like SPAMASSASSIN.

I have the same problem with emails I send to an e-zine list (participants have to re 
opt-in every three months!) seems that SPAMANOIA has taken over and much legitimate, 
even requested, email is being filtered out.

John


At 07:11 AM 12/20/2002 -0800, Michael A Chase wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 06:18:39 -0800 Jonathan Leffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I sent an email explaining how to unsubscribe to someone.
>> 
>>   Subject: How to Unsubscribe - again :-( was Re: Using DBI::Proxy ...
>>   Cc: DBI Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>   To: "Bharat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> The rediffmail.com mail service rejected my message:
>> 
>>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>      SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT 
>> TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>      host mail2.rediffmail.com [203.199.83.4]: 553 sorry, your envelope 
>> sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)
>> 
>> I think that means either Earthlink/Mindspring is on a blacklist or I 
>> am or he is, and probably bgbadhe isn't going to see this followup, 
>> either - though maybe...
>
>I got the same response when I tried to respond to another unsubscribe
>request from Bharat.  I followed up through another email provider, so
>hopefully the new message will get through.
>
>Considering how unclueful Bharat's provider seems to be, Baharat may have
>been trying to get help with this for millenia and is never seeing the
>responses because they get bounced by rediffmail.com.
>
>> And the message is not acceptable to [EMAIL PROTECTED] either:
>> 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> BOUNCED: Unsubscribe in subject. Send Unsubscribe requests to 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for 
>> help
>> 
>> Well, I'm not about to push the envelope to see whether un-subscribe or 
>> u-n-s-u-s-c-r-i-b-e (or subscribe) are trapped too, but there are some 
>> words that simply cannot be used in messages to the dbi-users mailing 
>> list, it seems.
>
>Unsubscribe in the subject triggers the rejection message you got in order
>to minimize the number of 'unsubscribe me' messages we see on the list. 
>Before that was done we seemed to be getting such messages about hourly;
>now we normally go about a month between the ones I notice.
>
>-- 
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