On 6/13/06, Paul J Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DK wrote: > Hello, > > I am not quite clear with all this: > My current version is dbmail 2.0.9-1 stable deb pkg that would be dbmail2-mysql then. > > I have filters in table dbmail_filters defined and they work fine. > My guess is dbmail handles that without sieve?!? Yes. But only in the dbmail2 packages for 2.0.x. > > I have libsieve1 2.1.10-1 installed but not configured. You're not using it anyways. > > I am considering to upgrade to dbmail version 2.16 (deb pkg unstable) > and installing dbmail_sieve. That works great, but those packages do *not* include the filters patch: you'll have to port the entries in the filters table to sieve scripts. > > Now: > Is dbmail_sieve using the dbmail db or does it create sieve folders to > tmp store email? It uses the dbmail_sievescripts table. > What is your suggestion advantages / disadvantages? > > Is it safer to stay with dbmail in the stable version? I am worried > about upgrading so many dependencies to unstable. (See dependants list > below) That depends on what other services you're using that system. The list below looks pretty clean to me. > When I do install dbmail 2.16 it removes dbmail2-mysql first. > So would this work: > 1) backup dbmail mysql database > 2) backup /etc/dbmail/ always a very good idea. 2a) stop your MTA (postfix?) to prevent mail from bouncing. > 3) Install via "apt-get -t unstable install dbmail dbmail-mysql > dbmail-sieve" 4) run the migrate_2.0_to_2.1 script in /usr/share/doc/dbmail-mysql/examples 5) run 'dbmail-util -ay' to prime the header caches. 6) edit /etc/defaults/dbmail to select the services you want to run 7) check proper delivery: cat message.txt|dbmail-smtp -u username -m folder 8) /etc/init.d/dbmail restart 9) test availability of imap and/or pop3 10) restart your MTA and keep an eye on mail.log. 11) done. > 4) restore dbmail mysql backup (Same strucure right) NO! Dbmail does not require dump/reload. > 5) restore /etc/dbmail/ (Do we have new config options?) NO! Allow dpkg to install the maintainers version of dbmail.conf, and afterwards check the settings (trace levels, min_spare_children, max_spare_children, etc...) > > I know this was a a lot at once so thank you very much > Demi > > > /# apt-get -t unstable install dbmail dbmail-mysql dbmail-sieve > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > libatk1.0-0 libcairo2 libfreetype6 libglib2.0-0 libgmime2.1 > libgtk2.0-common libmysqlclient15off libpango1.0-0 > libpango1.0-common mysql-common > Suggested packages: > stunnel dbmail-ldap exim4 mail-transport-agent libfreetype6-dev > ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho > ttf-thryomanes ttf-baekmuk ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp > ttf-arphic-gkai00mp ttf-arphic-bkai00mp > Recommended packages: > libatk1.0-data libglib2.0-data x-ttcidfont-conf > The following packages will be REMOVED: > dbmail2-mysql > The following NEW packages will be installed: > dbmail dbmail-mysql dbmail-sieve libcairo2 libgmime2.1 libmysqlclient15off > The following packages will be upgraded: > libatk1.0-0 libfreetype6 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common libpango1.0-0 > libpango1.0-common mysql-common > 7 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 437 not upgraded. > Need to get 7179kB of archives. > After unpacking 6622kB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n > _______________________________________________ -- ________________________________________________________________ Paul Stevens paul at nfg.nl NET FACILITIES GROUP GPG/PGP: 1024D/11F8CD31 The Netherlands________________________________http://www.nfg.nl
Ohh wow I don't remember haven ever gotten a better formulated answer. Thank you Paul I really appreciate that. Now what I still don't understand is what is the deal with those two versions of the same software? You are the owner of both packages so what is the point? 1) Witch one is going to be maintained in the future or more likely to stay current? 2) The dbmail 2.16 version vs dbmail2-mysql version has libsieve integrated. That sounds good. Is that maybe the point of having two versions and what are the advantages of integration? I am going to wait for your answer before I make any major changes. I think it would be a good idea to post your answers on the wiki pages as well since most people just starting out with dbmail don't even realize the fact that there are so many possibilities. Thanks much -- Demi
