Jorge Bastos wrote: > I know you're right Paul, > But tell me, is it asking to mutch to add something here to encode this? > I'm asking you this because, at least in my case, and i'm sure many > people will use sistems like this, check this part of the header from a > message that displays wrong (subject line it's not encoded). > See the X-Mailer tag, and below there's the charset info using iso-8859-1.
Dbmail already uses the encoding in the Content-Type header of a message. Only if such a header is not used, the default_msg_encoding is used to try and decode the 8bit headers. > I think this is a perl module not sure, it seams, even considering that > this module has a bug/missing feature, could dbmail check this to make > it consistent when showing the message? No can do. In this case there's simply no way to determine the encoding of the Subject header. Try bugging the maintainer of MIME::Lite::HTML > I understand there things, but for somebody that will install dbmail and > know so mutch about this technical things may say: "damn, dbmail show's > this wrong, don't want it!!". > Know what i mean? > > > > --- > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:13:26 UT > Subject: Micro Máquinas - SMC > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Mailer: MIME::Lite::HTML 1.21 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/related; > boundary="_----------=_11756888061387121609" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-DBMail-PhysMessage-ID: 547325 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --_----------=_11756888061387121609 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:13:26 UT > > --- > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul J Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "DBMail mailinglist" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Crazy Chars > > > Jorge Bastos wrote: >> Sorry, but now i'm seeing one thing, >> The the screenshot and the raw message in the attach. >> The message has charset=iso-8856-1 >> >> The subject should't display ok? >> Even if this is not in the RFC, most of people write non ASCII chars in >> the subject, after all it's the portuguese language and evebody writes >> in this way. > > A /real/ mailclient will convert 8bit headers to utf7 encoded strings. > > >> >> Tell me something :P >> >> I have now the database with charset= utf8 and >> collation=utf8_general_ci, and in dbmail.conf >> encoding = utf8 >> default_msg_encoding = utf8 >> >> >> Jorge >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Bastos" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "DBMail mailinglist" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Crazy Chars >> >> >> Ah, ok then >> This is not problematic for who uses the email. >> The question about the emails i send from the console, are only for me to >> read and i usualy don't use non ASCII chars on it so no problem at all. >> For me it's solved this sinse it's all working ok :) >> >> Jorge >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul J Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "DBMail mailinglist" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Crazy Chars >> >> >> Jorge Bastos wrote: >>> You're right Paul, >>> But some messages that i have problems, are messages that i send in my >>> linux console, and no charset information is going on it. >>> For example: >>> >>> echo "ola olá teste ç çãõ"|mail -s "ola olá teste ç çãõ" [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sending 8bit chars in a subject line violates the RFC2822 do please >> don't do >> that. The whole exercise with default_msg_encoding is to accomodate >> certain >> broken but widely used clients (read outlook) that will send 8bit >> headers. >> Those >> will most commonly use latin-1 or windows-1250 charsets. >> >> You, however, when sending from the console, are most likely sending utf8 >> strings. >> >> However, there is *no* way you can determine what charset is used for an >> 8bit >> string. Let me restate that: without knowing the charset beforehand >> you can >> not >> know how to represent the characters above 127. >> >> >>> >>> The values in the message body apear ok, but in the subject no, in the >>> subject all special chars are transleted to "???". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul J Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "DBMail mailinglist" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Crazy Chars >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> default_msg_encoding: >>> >>> *should* be the same as the encoding used by your outlook clients (the >>> ones >>> sending the messages with 8bit headers) >>> >>> encoding: >>> >>> must be the same as the encoding of the database. >>> >>> In your case it's the first that's biting you (default_msg_encoding). >>> >>> Most of your outlook clients that are sending 8bit headers in messages >>> are >>> probably using windows-1250 or latin-1 charsets, *not* utf8. >>> >>> >>> Jorge Bastos wrote: >>>> Ah, sorry Paul/Aaron, >>>> >>>> The screenshots are without: >>>> encoding = utf8 >>>> default_msg_encoding = utf8 >>>> >>>> and with the database in Latin1 charset: >>>> >>>> After i added this do dbmail.conf and changed the database to UTF8, i >>>> have in OE the word: >>>> "Situação" >>>> gets: >>>> "Situa??o" >>>> >>>> The same for SquirrelMail, RoundCube and thunderbird, and MSoutlook >>>> 2003 show's it right. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jorge Bastos >>>> To: DBMail mailinglist >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: [Dbmail] Crazy Chars >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul / Aaron, >>>> After updating to last svn, when i have for example the folowing >>>> word: >>>> >>>> "Situação" >>>> >>>> It gets crazy showed by OE. >>>> >>>> Squirrelmail show it +/- correct, but are other email that he just >>>> show it wrong as you can see in attach "sq mail.jpg". >>>> >>>> >>>> In thunderbird i can see the messages with the subject starting with >>>> UTF8..... etc etc right, but the one with the text "Situação" seams a >>>> bit strange also.. >>>> >>>> I have the database with charset UTF8 and collation utf8_general_ci >>>> And in dbmail.conf i also have with: >>>> >>>> encoding = utf8 >>>> default_msg_encoding = utf8 >>>> >>>> How to resolve this, or this need some fine tunning from you? >>>> Want me to report this? >>>> >>>> >>>> Jorge >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> DBmail mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman.fastxs.nl/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> DBmail mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman.fastxs.nl/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Received: from smtp.decimal.pt (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) >> by smtp.decimal.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC69427C3 >> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:38:21 +0100 (WEST) >> Received: by smtp.decimal.pt (Postfix, from userid 1001) id >> D276C427C2; >> Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:38:21 +0100 (WEST) >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on lira >> X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 >> tests=AWL,BAYES_00, >> HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NO_REAL_NAME >> autolearn=no version=3.1.7-deb >> Received: from www.jpsacouto.pt (www.jpsacouto.pt [81.92.197.132]) >> by smtp.decimal.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB5C427C4 >> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:38:20 +0100 (WEST) >> Received: from nobody by www.jpsacouto.pt with local (Exim 4.31) >> id 1HZ2qq-0007La-1e; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:36:28 +0100 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: JP Sá Couto - Campanha Monitor TFT 20\" LG L204WT-SF >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sender: Nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:36:28 +0100 >> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP >> Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >> X-DBMail-PhysMessage-ID: 547143 >> >> >> <html> >> <head> >> <title>Novidades J.P. 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