Hi Zack, Currently even the EC2 part of Amazon's build script pulls a specific version of euca2ools from Eucalyptus's github site during the build process. It also pulls a boto patch from Red Hat's bugzilla and applies it. While none of this bothers me from a freeness perspective, it doesn't meet Lucas's criterion (A) (about all software coming from Debian). I'm not trying to make value judgments based on semantics here - clearly everyone's goal is for all of the images, tools, and _if_ appropriate the official criteria, to evolve toward happy harmony in the end.
Discussing this in an extended fashion as a tangent within a tangent of the original thread topic is probably the wrong place for it, though. :) I'm happy to report that I'll be attending DebConf13, and a non-DD colleague or two from this effort at Google will be joining me. That seems like the ideal place to get started on comprehensive progress bridging all the relevant gaps. - Jimmy On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:10:25AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > > even though most or all of Debian's public cloud images don't yet > > count as official by Lucas's definition > > Uh? Can you expand on why you think it is the case? AFAICT the EC2 > images should qualify as official images, ditto for the Azure ones > (although I'm less on top of their build process so I might be missing > something there). > > Either way, if we have criteria, it would be useful to go through them > as a sort of checklist and see who's in and who's out. > > FWIW, I've clarified with Lucas point (C) on IRC, arriving at a slightly > better version: > > C) the image generation tools are maintained inside Debian and/or by a > Debian team, using usual Debian recommended practices > > My objective, IMHO satisfied by the above criterion, was to make it > clear that Anders' script totally qualifies. > > Cheers. > -- > Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . [email protected] . . . . o . . . o . o > Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o > Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . > « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » >
