Of course I meant Anders' build script, not Amazon's. :)

- Jimmy


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Zack,
>
> Currently even the EC2 part of Amazon's build script pulls a specific
> version of euca2ools from Eucalyptus's github site during the build
> process. It also pulls a boto patch from Red Hat's bugzilla and applies it.
> While none of this bothers me from a freeness perspective, it doesn't meet
> Lucas's criterion (A) (about all software coming from Debian). I'm not
> trying to make value judgments based on semantics here - clearly everyone's
> goal is for all of the images, tools, and _if_ appropriate the official
> criteria, to evolve toward happy harmony in the end.
>
> Discussing this in an extended fashion as a tangent within a tangent of
> the original thread topic is probably the wrong place for it, though. :)
> I'm happy to report that I'll be attending DebConf13, and a non-DD
> colleague or two from this effort at Google will be joining me. That seems
> like the ideal place to get started on comprehensive progress bridging all
> the relevant gaps.
>
> - Jimmy
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:10:25AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
>> > even though most or all of Debian's public cloud images don't yet
>> > count as official by Lucas's definition
>>
>> Uh? Can you expand on why you think it is the case? AFAICT the EC2
>> images should qualify as official images, ditto for the Azure ones
>> (although I'm less on top of their build process so I might be missing
>> something there).
>>
>> Either way, if we have criteria, it would be useful to go through them
>> as a sort of checklist and see who's in and who's out.
>>
>> FWIW, I've clarified with Lucas point (C) on IRC, arriving at a slightly
>> better version:
>>
>> C) the image generation tools are maintained inside Debian and/or by a
>>    Debian team, using usual Debian recommended practices
>>
>> My objective, IMHO satisfied by the above criterion, was to make it
>> clear that Anders' script totally qualifies.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> --
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