Hi, I didnt practice my english for a while, I am sorry for misunderstandings. If there are some points of misunderstanding, please ask me, that I am able to solve them. I am also a little unsure, if this is the correct place to ask, since I am new to debian.
Today I installed a package via Apt (called tor) on a server of mine. It installed a few packages on my hdd, to name some of them: tor, privoxy, socat, tsocks. Privoxy started directly beeing a service running at boot, same goes for tor itself. Since I only wanted to use the package tor, which was promoted on https://www.torproject.org/, i removed privoxy, socat and tsocks. After I did that, I am no longer able to use apt, it is telling me all the time unmet depencies, from my log: debian:/etc/tor# apt-get upgrade Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig Probieren Sie »apt-get -f install«, um dies zu korrigieren. Die folgenden Pakete haben nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten: tor: Hängt ab: tsocks ist aber nicht installiert Empfiehlt: privoxy ist aber nicht installiert oder polipo (>= 1) ist aber nicht installiert Empfiehlt: socat ist aber nicht installiert E: Nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten. Versuchen Sie, -f zu benutzen. As result, I opened a bugreport. Since I werent able to install reportbug (due to the failure about the depencies), I also took a look at Tor IRC. A user in #Tor told me to write a bug report, since the packages should be suggested instead of required. So, I wrote a bugreport by Mail. (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539881 ) As you can read the response has been nearly the same like: You are talking shit, they are not depencies Closed. Nevertheless, when I install Tor (apt-get install tor), the depencies are installed and Apt is morrowing when I deinstall them. I talked to the maintainer in chat, but there is no way to get a normal answer. His answers were: CRAZyBUg oh yeah this bug sucks, after removing unneeded depencies, apt stopped working saying 'privoxy, tsocks, socat needed by tor but not installed' weasel it'll be closed immediatelhy. weasel so don't bother filing it weasel because tsocks is 500 kilobytes. weasel unpacked. weasel the .deb is half that weasel and the ftp masters would bite off my head for creating a package for a single file weasel the meta data overhead and the maintenance and cpu overhead that goes with that would never justify itself weasel moving out torify is one thing, but moving out tor-resolve and tor-gencert adds another 11 or so packages weasel and I don't see the gain at all weasel also, there's little point CRAZyBUg Sebastian_: i don't care how big or small the app is. It is unneeded and it's like installing some FTP server while using apt-get install firefox weasel bullshit. weasel tsocks isn't a daemon. CRAZyBUg tsocks is unneeded for running tor, am i right, weasel? weasel it's needed for torify which is part of tor. weasel anyway, you are unlikely to change my opinion here. and you didn't even do us the courtesy of reading backlog and instead just chose to steal my time again weasel so have a nice day. bye. The thing about torify is part of tor is right, but it is used only if privoxy or something like is installed too on localhost. When you dont need privoxy/socat (due to use on a server), you dont need torify. Due to that, the tsocks depency is unneeded (like privoxy and socat). But all of them are getting installed by hitting: apt-get install tor Privoxy is a daemon running in background. WTF? I am not able to talk to weasel, since he doesnt want to talk to me anymore, as you can read in the chatlines. I were using freeBSD the last years, started using debian a few month ago. My requirement for security starts by installing as few software (and DAEMONS!!) as possible. It would be nice, if you could answer me if I am wrong using debian with that requirement. Nevertheless, weasel wasnt able to answer me how to get apt-get working without using tsocks. Maybe you are able to. I dont know how else to contact, so I hope you can help me out. hopefully, Sebastian Müller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]
