On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 03:53:42AM +0200, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > > Am 21.06.2012 um 22:08 schrieb Paul Tagliamonte: > > > As many of you know, we're tragically close to freeze. As a result, the > > usual process of voting, debating and picking a theme via consensus is > > not really possible. There was also a distinct lack of interest in such > > a process, as well. > > I can't believe you are doing this again.
Again? > > After the surreal "vote" for the Squeeze artwork with only a few people > knowing about it and only a 48 hour timeframe I thought things would turn out > better for Wheezy. But no. Now you just dropped the whole voting. I wasn't in charge if the squeeze process. > > For months there was nothing on this list from your side, and now, suddenly, > it is too late for voting. "Tragically". Are you joking? > > I know, this is not a democracy. It's a "do-ocracy" as Stefano Zacchiroli > once wrote. But obviously this means: let others do the work but don't let > them decide. > > Why do you even go into the public and call out a contest, if there is no > vote? I didn't. Please don't confuse me with someone else. At least look up the email logs. Hell, I didn't even want this role, I just wanted to see something happen. > > Let me quote: > > --- > Stefano Zacchiroli, 12. Dezember 2011 11:53:15 MEZ > "We can setup pages to submit proposals as you did for Squeeze, > and once the template is ready send out a first press release to invite > submissions. We can relaunch it once or twice at a 1-2 months > distance. That would allow us to have a reasonable set of proposals for > the beginning of the freeze and organize for that time a poll." > --- > > As far as I see it, there is now a reasonable set of proposals and freeze > didn't begin yet. So why don't you proceed with that plan? > > Another quote: > > --- > Stefano Zacchiroli, 27. Februar 2012 20:59:17 MEZ > "We haven't yet decided how to do that, but I *guess* it'll either be a vote > among the people active on -desktop activities, or a public poll among > users interested into this." > --- > > I trusted that. I thought this would be the direction things were going. > > > I've picked the "Joy"[1] theme by Adrien Aubourg as the default > > for Debian 7.0, which features a tasteful, understated and classic > > look, something that both identifies as Debian while still maintaining > > an air of professionalism. > > Don't get me wrong. Adrien did a good job. Congratulations for that. > > And of course I am disappointed that I did all my work for nothing. But > whatever I hoped the outcome would be, I never thought that at the end there > would be some mail by someone who never even cared about giving feedback or > advice here, and that he just decided it, just as a one-man-show, out of lack > of time. Sorry, this wasn't the case. I was complaining about the lack of change on debian-devel, got told to do it, prepared the changes, asked the current maintainers, pushed the changes and notifed everyone. If this is not up to your standard, please hold a vote, revert my patches, update the package and upload it. > > I also didn't expect to be told that people running a community project have > a "distinct lack of interest" in voting. > > No really. Come on. You can't be serious. I assure you I am. You can track the progress in VCS, unless you decide to, well, help, in which case you can do what you wish. I don't particularly want this role, I just want a new default and decided to *help*. > > Cheers, Paul
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