On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Ulrich Hansen <[email protected]>wrote:
> Am 22.06.2012 um 04:00 schrieb Paul Tagliamonte: > > > Sorry, this wasn't the case. I was complaining about the lack of change > on debian-devel, got told to do it, prepared the changes, asked the > current maintainers, pushed the changes and notifed everyone. > > > Well, thanks for notifying. A lot of people here were waiting for a vote. > Just read this list. > I know it's kind of a developer thing to want things get done and I > respect that. > > But the people here (including me) are mostly non-developers, they were > doing their artwork and some put a lot of time into it. I would have > expected that this work would be judged in a fair manner, with a discussion > and pros and cons and finally a vote. And not to be notified in a hurry by > somebody who just was tired of waiting. > > I totally understand your POV. I've been involved in more art/desktop projects/communities than I can remember, and I still haven't seen one single project where the work of their contributors has been judged in a fair manner (or valued, for what it's worth). > If this is not up to your standard, please hold a vote, revert my > patches, update the package and upload it. > > > Yes, I would like to do that. > > I suggest to vote on this list. > > I suggest a timeframe of five days. So voting ends Tuesday, 26th of June, > midnight. > > I'd also love to have something to say about this whole process, but the reality is that we have only 9 days left to freeze. A five day timeframe for voting leaves us only four days to prepare everything and upload. It's just not doable... As much as I hate that it has to be done like this, there's no other realistic option atm, IMHO. And maybe there's a lesson learned, and we try to be more proactive next cycle. Cheers, > I suggest that everybody who is interested how Debian 7 will look like, > can participate in that vote. So that means the poll is open for users. > > I suggest everybody has one vote and writes the name of the favored > proposal into the subject line of his mail. > > I suggest to make this poll immediately known to all user-communities and > blogs. > > I don't particularly want this role, I just want a new default and > decided to *help*. > > > We all want a new default. And everybody here tried to help. > > because we have *9* days before freeze. That's *9* days to do all > major changes. > > That means: > > write a theme for KDM, Ksplash, GDM, Plymouth, Splashy, GRUB, Migrate > everyone else (filed two bugs earler against SLiM & ldm-themes) off > spacefun, test it, and upload it. > > > This is not so much work. I have helped the last time to do it. I am > volunteering to do it now. > > If by this every Debian user gets to vote over the picture they will look > at the next two years, that's OK with me. > > And even if we are voting for "Joy" (which would be a reasonable choice > BTW) it would be a vote by the community and not by one single person. > > best wishes > Ulrich > > >
