Am 22.06.2012 um 04:00 schrieb Paul Tagliamonte:
> 
> Sorry, this wasn't the case. I was complaining about the lack of change
> on debian-devel, got told to do it, prepared the changes, asked the
> current maintainers, pushed the changes and notifed everyone.

Well, thanks for notifying. A lot of people here were waiting for a vote. Just 
read this list.
I know it's kind of a developer thing to want things get done and I respect 
that. 

But the people here (including me) are mostly non-developers, they were doing 
their artwork and some put a lot of time into it. I would have expected that 
this work would be judged in a fair manner, with a discussion and pros and cons 
and finally a vote. And not to be notified in a hurry by somebody who just was 
tired of waiting.

> If this is not up to your standard, please hold a vote, revert my
> patches, update the package and upload it.

Yes, I would like to do that. 

I suggest to vote on this list. 

I suggest a timeframe of five days. So voting ends Tuesday, 26th of June, 
midnight.

I suggest that everybody who is interested how Debian 7 will look like, can 
participate in that vote. So that means the poll is open for users.

I suggest everybody has one vote and writes the name of the favored proposal 
into the subject line of his mail.

I suggest to make this poll immediately known to all user-communities and blogs.

> I don't particularly want this role, I just want a new default and
> decided to *help*.

We all want a new default. And everybody here tried to help.

>> because we have *9* days before freeze. That's *9* days to do all
>> major changes.
>> 
>> That means:
>> 
>> write a theme for KDM, Ksplash, GDM, Plymouth, Splashy, GRUB, Migrate
>> everyone else (filed two bugs earler against SLiM & ldm-themes) off
>> spacefun, test it, and upload it.


This is not so much work. I have helped the last time to do it. I am 
volunteering to do it now.

If by this every Debian user gets to vote over the picture they will look at 
the next two years, that's OK with me.

And even if we are voting for "Joy" (which would be a reasonable choice BTW) it 
would be a vote by the community and not by one single person.

best wishes
Ulrich


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