On Wed, 02 Nov 2005, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >Well, I'd expect meta packages to have nothing on them > > Why? Was there any other definition than the link I posted that leads to > this assumption?
The link you posted has never bothered me before, I have zero contact with CDDs other than talking to Otavio a lot (and not about CDDs either). But from context, I'd assume that the link would tell me that "meta package" can contain non-metadata... (checks)... that's correct. Your links do *NOT* lead to the assumption that meta-packages only contain packaging system metadata, in fact, they are quite explicit on the opposite. And I don't recall ever reading any document that would lead me to believe that meta-packages contain useful packaged data (as opposed to metadata for the packaging system), other than the CDD URL you posted, and which I just read for the first time. Let me do something I should have done before: google-search for the earliest results of 'meta-package' in our lists. Read http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/1999/07/msg00340.html. That was a huge deployment inside Debian, and it certainly fixed in memory what many of us expected meta-packages to mean: packages whose only function is to depend on/recommend/conflict/suggest others. I am quite sure these efforts (that begun well before 1997/07) were the source for the "it contains only packaging system metadata" definition of meta-package I am used to. I have found other uses of "meta-package", most of them limited to one thread or another (and not something that hit the archive). Some of those implied packages that have content (such as lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1997/01/msg00268.html). After that (non-exaustive) search, IMHO it is CDD who is trying to change the meaning of meta-package, sorry. So, I still think CDD should drop the meta- prefix from anything that contains useful data. CDD "meta-packages" are really superstructure packages, IMHO you should name them accordingly. I personally have no problem with packages using the CDD definition of "meta-packages" *as long as* any and ALL package descriptions of either meta- prefixed packages, or that claim that a package is a meta-package, fully describe the package's contents so that it is obvious it has more than packaging metadata in it. Heck, maybe you guys already put all that information inside the package descriptions, I didn't check. What I mean with the above is, that a "debian-med" package would, if it includes "meta-package" anywhere in its description, also state that it includes menu definitions, configuration for other packages, etc. If it doesn't do it already, which it might. But I still like "This is the Debian Med superstructure package" better. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]