Hi, >>"David" == David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> Rather, my point is that strong leadership is needed to help David> keep everyone focused and the project on course in the future. And I think if we need such leadership, we may as well pack our bags and go home, for it is not going to fly. Charismatic leadership happens. It can not be decreed, or coaxed out of nothingness. So, either we sit around waiting for charismatic leadership to happen to us and lift us out of our doldrums, or we take our destiny into our own hands and do something about it. David> I guess we're just going to have to disagree. I've stated before that David> a democracy is not the best way to run Debian and I still stand by David> that. Democracy is the right way to run a government. It is not the David> right way to run a project. I would much rather see a single person David> or small group of people, with the right vision and skills, be put in David> charge (with some checks and balances, of course) and let them manage. We already tried this method. Our erstwhile leader was charismatic, had a vision, had leadership qualities. He was boldly leading us where we had never gone before. He had us all licked into focus. He was providing leadership. And the experiment (pardon me) failed miserably. You know why? Cause the developer did not want to go where he was leading us. Debian is not a nation. It is not a company. You can't have one person crack a whip and keep the galley slaves in line. Benevolent dictatorships have a tendency to grow corrupt. And fail. Leader ship by the Elite. Isn't that what the asian markets were all about? No open process, no protocols, just old boy networks of elites? 'Tis a new world order, my friend. David> I have read the constitution. It is way overkill and places too much David> potentially destructive power in the hands of developers. Since the developers do all the hard work, (and believe me, sleep deprivation is not a jke, and many suffer from it), we are not likely to be ``destructive''. And if we did collectively wish to be self destructive, who has the right to stop us? David> Voting by developers should be limited to the election and David> recall of leaders and the ratification of amendments. Why? Because even though we do all the work, the masses are too dumb to do their own masters? We need a all knowing, all powerful group of people to tell us how to act? What cventury are we in now? David> Developers should still be allowed to make proposals but the David> final decision making authority should rest with the leaders David> or their delegates. I refuse to let any opne have such power. Unless they pay me. Shall I make my rates know to the supposed leaders and delegates? What makes leaders and delegates so special that they can command the masses that do the work? When they bleed, does their blood run blue? manoj admittedly incensed -- Lord FINCHLEY tried to mend the Electric Light Himself. It struck him dead: And serve him right! It is the business of the wealthy man To give employment to the artisan. Belloc Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]