Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Bill Allombert wrote:
>> I like to say I concurr with Russ. There are some much difference >> between packages that distributions wide default does not make sense. >> Such change would rather lead me to hardcode values of >> DEBIAN_BUILD_OPTIONS in debian/rules if they are used blidly. > > But more and more people want to be able to change distribution wide > default: Emdebian wants to enable "nodocs" and "nocheck" by default, > other want to be able to enable hardening options by default and I agree > with them that official support for such a facility is desirable. So they should set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS in the environment. That's what it's for. I don't have any objections to that, or even to doing it via dpkg-buildpackage. My objection is specifically to having dpkg-buildpackage set a variety of environment variables *by default*, and then telling package maintainers that they should rely on those environment variables being set in the default case. That breaks the debian/rules interface and requires that all package builds go through dpkg-buildpackage. Having dpkg-buildpackage set environment variables in the non-default case like Emdebian is not a problem, since for Emdebian builds (for example) Emdebian can decide that using dpkg-buildpackage or setting the environment variables manually is required. There is no existing precedent, and they can make that rule from scratch. My concern is for the default build where there *is* an existing precedent that debian/rules build should work sanely, not for support for special cases like that where the existing debian/rules interface already doesn't do the right thing without additional help. If you are going to go down this path of having dpkg-buildpackage set up an environment that package maintainers should rely on, you or someone else on the dpkg team needs to make a debian-devel-announce post making it clear that debian/rules build is no longer a supported interface for building packages and using dpkg-buildpackage is required for consistent behavior. Right now, I don't think most Debian Developers have any idea what the implications of these changes are. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]