Le 5 juil. 2013 11:58, "Andreas Tille" <[email protected]> a écrit : > > [Moved from debian-devel to debian-edu list - IMHO it belongs way more > there. The history of this thread started here > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00108.html > ] > > Hi José, > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:12:41AM +0200, José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > > 2013/7/5 Andreas Tille <[email protected]> > > > Thanks for bringing Debian Science up - otherwise I would have done > > > this. Luis, Debian Science repositories (SVN or Git as you prefer) are > > > writable for any DD so you can commit straight to it. The package is > > > also mentioned in Debian Science task electronics - so it perfectly fits > > > here. I'd strongly recommend using Debian Science Vcs for packaging > > > because your work will show up on the Blends sentinel even before it is > > > uploaded. > > > > > > > > > > Andreas, I don't see it clear: > > - For me qucs is education related more than science, so, I'd consider it > > in debian-edu more than in debian-science
I use daily for my academic research. Edu or science fit. > Well, there are a lot of packages that fit perfectly in both and it > makes no sense to "fight" for one or the other. Regarding the Blends > tasks it is very simple: We mention the package in both and are done. > > If you need to decide for a VCS to maintain your packaging I would also > not mind at all if you would do it in Debian Edu area - the only problem > is that Debian Edu has not (yet - I know this is work in progress) > established a kulture to maintain educational relevant packages inside a > common VCS. In other Blends this as proven to be a *very* helpful > thing. I just would like you to step back from a two-men-qucs packaging > team - we just have a working infrastructure in Debian Science that can > perfectly hold the qucs packaging and if Debian Edu might have this at > one day and you feel better in working there it's perfectly fine to > move. > > > - I've been qucs maintainer for 8 years, and filled the needed itp to have > > it again in the archive after a qt4 version looks to be working. > > That's great. Great > > > - I don't like at all Adms in qucs, its compilation in most Debian > > platforms is not very clear, and it looks more like a patch than a program It is an external program commited as a convenience library. We could use the external program by using configure flags in order to get verilgo a. I need verilog a and I will do the homework. > > - If Adms is a problem I will check how qucs works without Adms, because > > there's not a working circuits simulator in Debian for secondary and > > vocational teaching (oregano is totally buggy and geda is a joke for > > teenagers). If verilog part must be removed to compile and work correctly > > in Debian I think that can be assumed, as there are some compilers and > > simulators to use verilog in Debian which are suitable for adults or > > university students. > > I have no idea what Adms might be - so I can not comment here. > > > But... > > I'd be glad to consider maintaining qucs with someone who is collaborating > > with upstream and would be happy to see this mess finishing and having > > again qucs in the Debian archive. As I've previously said, it's a needed > > tool as there are no graphical working electronics simulators in Debian. My > > students are using now https://www.circuitlab.com/ because of it. If > > Bastien has tested the compilation of adms in non intel architectures and > > it's not a problem we could go ahead, but I need more info to avoid the > > stalling of qucs in sid because of Adms problems with the builders. As I've > > said before, qucs should work without Adms and verilog is not a must for me > > when I think in the secondary and vocational teaching world. > > As far as I see it is a good idea to discuss qucs issues on a mailing list > where knowledged people are reading. I have no idea whether this might be > rather debian-edu or debian-science list. > > Kind regards > > Andreas. > > -- > http://fam-tille.de
