On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:06:41AM +0200, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > <quote who="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> > > > >> 1. Against traditional conservativism, 2.4 goes into unstable 'tomorrow', > >> best-case being it all goes in together after being quickly trialled for > >> each arch in experimental > > > > (I wouldn't be horrified if this happened, it seems like a sane way to go > > about it if no one is concerned with having a stable 2.2 backup plan.) > > > >> 2. It takes some time to iron out non-stability related things like package > >> Replaces: and Depends: lines, or fixing transition scripts for (a) 1.4 > >> users and/or (b) 2.2 users > >> 3. Meanwhile hell freezes over and gcc/glibc are able to go into testing, > >> and 2.2 would have gone into testing except it's been replaced by 2.4 which > >> is not ready for 'testing'. > >> 4. sarge is released with 1.4 desktop or delayed until 2.4 is ready? > > > > That's my worst fear. :-) > > [...] > > But that (sarge with 1.4) is highly unlikely. > > Large parts of Gnome 2.2 already _have_ made their way into > testing. So for your fear to come true, this would have to be > reversed. > > It's quite probably that this reversal would be no less problematic > than completing the transition to Gnome 2.x, given that in the > meantime the default compiler has changed. > > I don't think that any of those in charge of managing the release > would seriously consider this option. > > The cruxial point is probably how long it will take to sort out the > remaining RC bugs in glibc and gcc. Can anyone give an educated guess?
Notice that another solution would be to upload a new version of the packages needing to go into testing to testing-proposed-updates. This means that you need to build them in a sarge environment, and as such, there will be no glibc or other problems. You would need to ask the RM about it, as he needs to aprove the testing-proposed-update, but in light of the current situation, i think he will agree. I did exactly this for the ocaml 3.06 packages, which are blocked from entering testing because of glibc, but i want to move to ocaml 3.07 as soon as it is released (any day now) and not loose the bugfixes introduced in the last uploads i made. Also testing-proposed-updates is supposed to be auto-built, altough that seems to be disabled right now by the RM. So to resume, we have a possibility 3 : 3 : reupload all packages not yet in testing to testing-proposed update and immediately upload gnome 2.4 to sid. Friendly, Sven Luther

