On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 04:43:26PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-04-18 03:39:58, schrieb Steve Langasek: > > Er, businesses selling t-shirts using the official debian logo is *not* > > permitted. Currently, the manner in which this is being disallowed is > > suboptimal, but it's still not something that we *permit*. (Perhaps what > > you're suggesting is that t-shirt manufacturers don't have to get permission > > because we have a mark in the field of computers/software, not in the field > > of clothing; but if what's being sold is Debian-related clothing, it's still > > the Debian mark that's being used, and it is infringement that we have > > standing to prevent.)
> Now I am a little bit confused, since if Debian does not permit the use > of the Logo, why does some/many shops sell Coffe-Mugs and T-Shirts with > Debian Logo and phrases related to Debian? When I wrote "the official Debian logo", I was referring to the Debian Official Use Logo, not to the Debian Open Use Logo. > > Further, it's up to *Debian* to decide what uses of the logo reflect badly > > on it and consequently should be disallowed because we don't wish to be > > associated with them. Your above statement includes an implicit value > > judgement about which sorts of activities Debian will or will not wish to be > > associated with, which may not be at all representative of the views of the > > project members at large. > Unfortunatly you can use Logos anzthing you like in Germany... > The is a Product called "Dasch Ultra" and it was transformed to "Hash Ultra" > :-) , Henkel, the Manufacturer of this Soap has lost the juridical > procedure... Even if the Graphical Logo was trademaked Parody is not the same thing as copying a mark and using it to confuse the consumer. I'm not surprised at a ruling allowing parody of a mark, and I don't draw any conclusion from this that "you can use Logos any way you want in Germany." -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

