Hi Bjørn! On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:09:35 +0200, Bjørn Mork <bj...@mork.no> wrote:
>> Somebody would help me contacting and convincing the RIRs about >> a free geoIP database? > I believe such usage can be considered within the RIRs AUPs, provided > that you follow their guidelines for bulk downloads and only > redistribute a small subset of the data (i.e. only the country attribute > of the inetnum objects). > > You are aware of the GPLv3 licensed database at > http://software77.net/geo-ip/ ? > > This database is used by Geo::IPfree, and probably other applications > already part of Debian. There is another geo-ip db packaged in Debian -- tor-geoipdb (used by Tor). But the problem described in the original mail is that it's unknown how to derive binary data file from source data, not absence of free data. So available alternatives will not help here. But looking into all this led to a bunch of questions for debian-legal. 1. maxmind. Web page[1] show that C code is under LGPL but data files are under Open Data License (BSD-like + fixed text acknowledgment -- slightly non-free?). However Debian copyright file lists only LGPL. Patrick, is it an informed decision or a bug? 2. tor-geoipdb. First, license[1] is not very clean and also contains fixed text acknowledgment -- is it free? Second, "Some parts of the IP-to-Country Database are derived from APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC and RIPE databases whose copyright details are given below" and lack free licenses. Undistributable? Debian copyright file doesn't include "RIR Licenses" part for some reason. 3. http://software77.net/geo-ip/ . How is it possible for their data to be licensed under GPL when the data seems to come directly from RIRs? 4. Does RIRs have any copyright on their data to start with? 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