On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 05:22:17PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > On 6/11/23 16:37, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 01:19:48PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was stumbled on Söhne font collection, primarily due to ChatGPT > >> uses it for its web interface. I'd like to also use it for hypothetical > >> web app (let's name it foodb) to be packaged in Debian (due to design > >> constraints). However, in order to acquire the font, I have to buy it [1] > >> (buy its license). Can the font be included in Debian package of foodb > >> (or as separate package), or is it non-free? > >> > > > > This would be permanently non-free because it couldn't be distributed > > without individuals purchasing the fonts. Please consider using free > > fonts that already exist within Debian / could be freely packaged and > > distributed. > > > > Hi Andy, thanks for the answer. > > Several questions remain: > > * The foodb upstream has already bought the font license (in case > of Söhne, he bought desktop and web license). If I as Debian packager > wants to also distribute Söhne for the sake of foodb (under license > in the name of Debian), at least both licenses and OEM license must > also be purchased, IMO. Is both all licenses acceptable?
That's a licence personal to him: you can't rely on it. The best thing to do is to patch foodb and substitute a free font. > > * With Debian distributing this commercial font, there is a "pirating" > loophole that someone else can extract the font files and distributing > them freely on various sites (including torrent and shady ones) with > Debian licensee attached. What do you think? > This is *precisely* why the Debian Free Software Guidelines exist https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFreeSoftwareGuidelines > * Supposed that the foodb upstream refuses to change the font choice > (and insists on Söhne) due to his preference when I request the > change after reading this fact. What can I do about it? > He doesn't have to change his preferences: if his code is free and you are free to modify it for your preferences, *you* modify it. > Thanks. > > -- > An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara > With every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater