> > Furthermore, saying its NOT is the documentation is just totatlly > wrong! If you chose NOT to install the HOWTO'S or INFO,
And how would I go about doing that? I've got 5 install disks and a machine with a modem that can only get to the net via PPP. I'd install the HOWTO's with dselect but, you see, I can't get PPP going. See there? It's kind of a chicken-n-egg problem. > the PPP HOWTO? Yes, I've read the Serial HOWTO. I've read the PPP HOWTO. I've even read the PPP RFC. I know what IPCP does and I know what LCP does. But I shouldn't have to. I didn't have to read the LILO HOWTO to get my machine to boot Linux. I didn't have to read anything about the timezone system to get the timezone set right. I didn't have to read about "mount(1)", or "mke2fs(1)", or "mknod(1)", or anything else like that. Oddly, the Debian install program handled it all for me, as it should. But it's lack of any setup for PPP... it's lack of even *mentioning* that PPP is on the system already... seems to indicate that there was almost a conscious decision to throw the user to the lions on this part. > Linux, any of the distributions, comes with enough doc to keep you > busy, and make you real smart, if you just take the time to look at > it! Its all there man, all of it. I'm not saying that it isn't. What I'm asking is: What percentage of the 10-30MB of documentation does a new Debian user have to read before they are sufficiently informed to take 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ disks home and install it on a machine that only has PPP as a way of accessing the net? 50%? 10%? If you go to the debian home page, you'll find the link for the instaltion guide. The guide doesn't say "Go and read these 200 choice HOWTO's". It bascally says: "Here's how to get the disk images. Here's how to make the diskettes. Here's how to install it. Be well and prosper.". I'd begin to entertain the idea that I was out in left field if the install guide even simply MENTIONED something like "Oh, if you want to use PPP, go read this other document first...." - Joe