Martin Schulze wrote: > > Greg Vence writes: > > > > ae is on board. > > > > > > > I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there > > > > anymore? :-) > > > > > > We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won. :-( > > > There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode. This > > > might be included in further releases. > > > > > I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the > > initial mail. > > Me too. Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision > I don't want to perform this fight a second time. This was the decision > and now we should al live with it until we find a better solution > (which could mean finding a very small vi or reducing elvis to only > support basic functions that makes it very small; or the above mentioned > vi-macros) > Agreed, I didn't realize that vi was a pig. It might be nice to have some notice on the install disks ie a script called vi that directs you to ae. This could be removed by the package containing vi. Maybe I've missed that _war_ too.
However, since I believe we should keep the 5.25" disks ae seems a better choice. Thanx to the previous decision makers. > Apart from the fact that I need a vi, many new users won't ever use > vi if they find it. vi is a tool for freaks, hackers and gurus (therefore > it's a very good editor for us...). Beginners are very happy with ae > because they can see which commands they can type. It is really an > easy editor. Therefore it should be included in the base set. :-) > Agreed, however Unix pro's tend to expect it as a minimal fall back. That's why I'd suggest that script for vi. Less Suprising == Better User Acceptance Thanx -- Greg.