On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha Feigin<mi...@post.tau.ac.il> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800 > 明覺 <shi.min...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan <h...@halblog.com>: >> > >> > On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler<jhas...@debian.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 明覺 writes: >> >>>> >> >>>> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >> >>>> control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other >> >>>> language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be hard to >> >>>> maintain for me. >> >>> >> >>> If learning enough of another language to do maintainence is hard for you >> >>> you aren't much of a programmer. Programming is not about knowing a >> >>> language. >> >> >> >> Yes, language is just a tool, so I want to keep my tool simple and >> >> powerful, I do not want so many similar tools with the same functions. >> > >> > Boy, I didn't realize that by "junior programmer" you meant you were that >> > inexperienced in the field. I don't know if you realize that you've just >> > basically said you are either unwilling or unable to understand the >> > different reasons for different languages. >> > >> > EACH language is a tool, and each one is a DIFFERENT tool with a DIFFERENT >> > purpose. >> I will give an example to deny your opinion - "a DIFFERENT tool with a >> DIFFERENT purpose" >> Sql is a language for database operation, but what microsoft doing is >> to use C# replacing sql, by linq. I don't like microsoft, but I like >> the way they developing C#, the only one language for microsoft will >> be C#, I guess. > > The only one language for microsoft is c#, oh wait, its visual basic, sorry > wait a minute it's forms for the gui, assembly in the drivers in if you start > digging you will find that half the system management is using scripts and > batch scripts of one sort or another. I mean .net framework, I don't know they use scripts so heavily, but I think they are reducing the use of scripts, you even cannot find a command line console in vista. > >> Then what's the only one language for linux? I think >> it's C/C++. > > I'm afraid you are out of luck. All the init scripts are as the name sugests, > scripts (you may get away without bash but you won't get away without sh which > is basically simple bash). You probably should compile the kernel as > compilation includes scripts (assuming you don't have problems with make > files), emacs is out of the question as half of it is writen in elisp (variant > of list). Vim may be ok, don't know. > > You can try dos, but the startup agian depends on batch scripts. > > OSx likes objectiveC more than c++, but there is also quite a bit of apple > script and it's unix behind the scene which means perl, bash, python, etc. > >> > >> > It is rarely a whim why a programmer picks one language over another. >> > There > > I found that it's usually due to a whim and a bunch of buzz words. Usually > it's > the program you know, but quite often this is due to you picking your initial > language to match the programming you like. I also do find that a lot of > people, esspecially windows people BTW, tend to be narrow minded and lock into > one programming language, usually it's c++ or c#. A lot of times its' the > managers who don't know anything about programing that choose the language. I feel very strange that you have learnt so many languages but you do not feel bored with them. I have no words to say, maybe we are 2 different people. > >> > are often several, if not many reasons why one language is more appropriate >> > and better for a job than another is. >> > >> > But there's no point in continuing any discussion. You've made it quite >> > clear you're too busy being right to care what anyone more experienced has >> > to say -- unless it's what you want to hear. >> > >> > >> > >> > Hal >> > >> > -- >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject >> > of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
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