I need a "sane" webbrowser. Firstly, I'm not interested in rolling releases. In my experience, Firefox 3.6 was the pinnacle in browsers, in the days when Epiphany was also a fine option. Things appear to have gone downhill bigtime since then, as far as I can tell.
Seeking something that is 100% libre, and supported in Debian Wheezy, to install and admin/maintain for Debian deployments which I do occasionally for friends and for a human rights association that I volunteer at (upmart.org). I have been unable to deploy anything for six months (besides time constraints, I am struggling with finding a modern desktop, voip client etc - but I don't want to hijack my own thread here...) What I've tried: * Iceweasel 10 LTS used for 6 months - I have been running wheezy/testing for 6 months, and about two weeks ago switched to sid/unstable - I can put up with various problems for an extended period of time, but I wish to reach "deployability" for others not technically versed as I am. Problems: every now and then, firefox causes a core or two to hit 100% for a couple seconds, causing the fan to spin up (and this, with no pages loading, animations stopped, no java, no javascript etc, only scrolling up and down a single tab/page - eg gmail static (my rural link too slow for javascript)) - this looks like a GC (garbage collection) type artifact, and is so obtrusive that I've decided it's a deal breaker. The following browsers I've been trying over the last day: * Midori (using now) Not showing the tabs Private browsing option doesn't remember settings (at least, I've tested proxy setting); tabs do not show at all - I've tried each binary Preferences setting for always display tabs, then restarting midori, but no joy. btw, midori -p does show it's tabs. Thankfully, CTRL-PgUp/PgDown does cycle amongst tabs, but not seeing them is a deal breaker. * Netsurf Has wacko keybindings: CTRL-PgUp/Down does not change tabs; CTRL-RightArrow/LeftArrow does change tabs (so when editing in a field eg writing an email, I cannot jump a word at a time, nor select a word at a time!); tab key does not include going from address bar to search bar/field; keyboard scrolling of page does not work well/ sometimes I can't seem to keyboard scroll at all; I had difficulty copying an email address off a page (no right click menu option for this). This keyboard firetruckery is a deal breaker. * Epiphany Epiphany. How I loved epiphany back in the days of Gnome 2 and Firefox 3.5, when I took a walk on the wild side of Ubuntu, and settled in on Ubuntu 8.04. Firefox 3.6 managed to provide enough reasons use it predominantly. Back to the present: Epiphany is not showing its toolbar icons; it has a whole menu bar with a single "Web" menu. There's a different menu behind one of the faceless icons on the icon bar. * Luakit I installed this, started it up twice, and would love to learn it (I use vim for most of my editing). Unfortunately, this browser demands learning its ways, so it is not suitable for general deployment. As technically gluttonous as I'd like to be in satisfying my own power-user needs, there are other higher priorities in my life - facilitating community actions and community helpers/ volunteers, to do their good work in a relatively secure environment. This means I must be eating the dog food I deploy. For me to get to deployment, in this so modern era of amazing omg integrated unified cross-device ponies and "So, are you ready for BYOD?" desktops ... well, it hasn't been possible for me in the last year. This is incredibly frustrating; battling default samba configurations is one thing, but I can't even find a deployable browser, consistent XP-style UI "experience" etc. Sorry, sorry, I'm ranting again! I promise I'll keep it to browsers. There are plenty of other threads we _could_ create. TIA, Zenaan PS: For those who, like me, didn't know what "BYOD" meant before yesterday: Bring Your Own Device. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnssvq8e+g6pbipmf_oz_-hopwoumdnjqu-+gre6wydd...@mail.gmail.com