On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:34:06 +0200 deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe wrote: > > > And it's not so much fundamental languages as the buzzwords, the > > frameworks, 'agile' programming, AJAX, and things like proprietary > > CMS (C for both content and customer) systems. Nobody ever asks for > > basic programming skills. > > You are sooo right, but one must understand the language first, to be > able to use the framework. I bet it is getting extremely difficult > for newcomers to understand all that stuff and a good guidance is > extremely valuable. Indeed. I'm sort-of learning Laravel at the moment. If you're reasonably competent in PHP and HTML, there's still a steep learning curve. It does a lot of stuff, but you have to work *its* way e.g. every application requires a separate virtual server, domain name and therefore DNS (or multiple /etc/hosts) entry. You can't just drop a directory of stuff into /www/docroot (as I usually do) and expect it to work. > > IMO the future is in automated frameworks that turn a/the concept > into code. For example I used swagger (https://swagger.io/) or symfony > (https://symfony.com/) - of course you have to know the language > (java or php) - but it is all about the time you need to turn the > idea into code. > Nothing new under the sun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_One_(software) -- Joe